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    35s on a tj with.....

    OK, I have a 4.0L 2002 tj and just installed a 4" rough country long arm kit with a "new" d30 and 35 with 4.10s.

    I am currently on the market for the proper 33x12.5x15s that the kit and 4.10s call for.

    The question is what would I be getting myself into if I decided to go the extra mile and get 35x12.5x16s???

    pretty much everything in the kit is adjustable so Im not worried about that but.....

    What is the consequences of running 35s on a d30-d35
    Will The loss of power be standable since 35s call for 4.56 gears
    Would a 1.25 IN body lift give me the extra clearance I need at the lowest price since I would have to install the sye if I upgrade to the 6" springs

    Its alot of cash for new tires and I want big but if its gonna effect my ride too much I will stick with the 33 plan.

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    wait for it















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    Enjoy your "adjustable kit"

    You have what gears now?

    You likely need a SYE now
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    AAAAAAHAHAHAHA

    I knew that was coming.

    Why "adjustable kit"
    It says 4.10s
    And maybe I do but well see monday if I can get my angles right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exoticempire View Post
    AAAAAAHAHAHAHA

    I knew that was coming.
    Then what was it you where asking for?

    nm on gears i re read haha

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    Well Im curious if breaking axles on the 35 can be avoided by taking it easy, what the power loss would be like, and if they would even fit comfortably on the jeep. I was just reading through the forums and see people saying you can throw 33s on a jeep with a 2`budget boost and I just dropped alot of parts and work into my jeep for the same. Even though mine is done right and I love the way it looks now. I guess if I was to throw on 35s I should be waiting going to pick up an 8.8 or d44 rear for a project eh.
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    I had 35's with D30/D35's and 4.10. I tore it up!!! Went to MOAB twice and Rausch creek!!! Never had a problem!!







    Actually, i am full of shiat! lol
    Can you do it? Sure. But just think.... You are out there on the trails, with your setup, buddy tries something and you want to as well.... But.... Something tells you not to for fear of breaking something in the axle(s). That's the way it would be... All the time. Not worth it. Try it out with 33's for a season. It'll give you some time to truly get a feel for it and determine what you REALLY want/need.

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    That there is some good advise Thanks guys and I will just pick up some 33s and make my axle upgrades next winters project!

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    sounds like a smart plan.

    bolth d30 and 35 are unreliable on the stock tires.

    i know lots of ppl run them hard including myself and they work well but if your not the kinda guy who can change u joints in the mud with a rock and a hammer then you shouldnt run them hard just get dynatrac 60s to fit the tj and be done with it for the life of the jeep.

    but they cost around 7000

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ_HOOKER View Post
    look around for a ford 8.8. there are lots around. there are a few on here for a tj already, or at least there was. either that, or, get a cherokee d44, and have it fabbed for a TJ. either way, your bolt pattern will match the front. d30 in the front will be ok on 35's, just don't put a locker in it. you will need to re-gear for sure, and, a 4"kit in a tj, is not enough lift to properly clear 35's on it's own. if you don't disconnect, you may be ok, but long arms and 4" coils? kinda redundant to begin with. anything over 4" you will need a cv shaft for the rear as well.
    Be careful listening to the "need lottsa lift guys"

    There are TJ's out there on 3.5 inches of lift with 37's that work great

    Why they make 5+ inch lift kits baffles me for TJ's

    a 3 to 5 inch LA setup is the shit setup properly for what I see around here

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    2 questions... What engine and do you offroad your jeep?

    If your jeep is strictly a mall crawler you can likely get away with 35's.

    If you have a 4L and 4:10's its probably liveable. If its the 2.5 I would not even run 32's on the street, that said your axles may survive longer off road due to the lack of power.

    I believe anything over a 2.5 lift would likely required a SYE

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    I do agree with what is being said here about the rear diff. The D35 is just too weak, period. I ran it in a YJ Locked on 35's with a 4.0L and 4:10's, and was
    extremly lucky that it did not break.
    I have seen people with 31's and no locker break these shafts.
    Now as far as the gearing goes, 4:10's are fine with a 4.0L and 35's.
    Yes you will have some people saying "those gears are shit, you need 4:88 minimum with 35's". It's just not true.
    I currently run 35's with 4:10's in a 97 XJ, (wich is heavier that your TJ) and the power is not a problem, I get into 5th gear on the highway with out a problem and still have lots of extra.
    Now on the other hand I have heard that the gearing in an automatic transmission is not as good as the standard, and lower gears are normally run in this case (4:56 or 4:88's)

    I would say invest the money in the Ford 8.8 and have some fun!!
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    Personally I say 35's are doable on a D30/35 combo. I run them with a locked D35. But plan for the worst. Carry spare shafts whenever you are running. (I have a spare set for sale)

    I had a buddy running 35's on his TJ with 3.5" RE and a 1" body. did very well.

    I would also suggest the spare parts even if you are running 33's.

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    I run 35x15x15 Bias ply TSL's. Not a light tire at all, super 35 rear kit and i beat it hard. Havent had a problem. 4'' Super lift susp, nothing has broken yet, and dont expect it too.

    The only thing the big heavy tire really affect, front hub bearings on the D30. iv gone through 2 sets in a year. And the brakes dont work nearly as good as there supposed to.
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    I'm getting my 35" tires this summer hopefully(running 32's up till this point).

    By then my heep will include a D30/35 w/ 4.10's and 2002 4.0L. My front 30 is aussie-locked and my rear is still open. I have a super kit with detroit on standby. I won't be throwing that in until I truss the 35. At which point I doubt I'll have any 'immediate' issues, but Murphy is cunning sonova bitch and always seems to lurk his ugly face in-behind in the most unexpected of places. Tis why I'll have spare 30 spline shafts with me

    PERSONALLY - I'd be extra leery of running 35" with a stock unmodified dana35. That's me saying that who avoids getting throttle happy unless it's absolutely necessary.
    I've seen a locked dana35 shaft sheer in half without any throttle bliss whatsoever - his YJ was just in the perfect angle (max axle travel in opposing angles) and as soon as he let go some gas, the axle shaft just gave. Mind you, by not having it locked, your 35 will live longer..

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    I have destroyed 2 D35 rear ends over the last 3 years running 32s and 33s. Both breaks have happened on the street. No axle shaft snapping, just differential gears dieing.


    Is the 4" long arm kit from rough country the one that bolts on to the underside of the frame rails? If so I would want 35s to clear the control arm mounts from getting hung up on rocks. This would be less of an issue if its just gonna be a mall crawler/ mud truck.
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    I think you would be fine, I have 33's and 4.10 gearing now, and was thinking the same thing.

    Here's the catch - you have to do a little tire research. Right now I have Goodyear MTR-Kevlars, and in a 33" tire they're 61 lbs each. That's the weight of a lot of 35's out there, so if you could find a lighter 35 (either an AT, or just a lighter MT with less material in the sidewalls) you might be just fine going that way. When it comes to tires two things seem to have an effect on axle shaft longevity - weight and size. If you're going to increase size, it would be prudent to decrease weight.

    Examples of 35's that are lighter or equal to my 33" MTR-K's in a 35x12.5 R15:
    BFG AT KO's 54 lbs
    BFG MT KM2's 61 lbs

    Replacing steelies with aluminum rims (in my case comparing a set of Pro Comp Rockcrusher steelies and Dick Cepek DC-1 wheels) also saved me 10 lbs a wheel. I think the weight is a very crucial factor when it comes to breakage, because all of that weight around the outside of the wheel stores a lot of energy once it's spinning and must wind up the azle shafts as it loads/unloads.

    As it stands, I went to Yukon shafts in my rear axle, and run a limited slip. Is it a compromise? Yes, but I'm not afraid of it either.

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