Collection of parts.... continued

[Jak Flash]

So I guess its time to start a thread of this years collection...... last years thread

well there's not much to say for parts but.... Holy Fawk these are good parts.

so for this winters Build.... here's the plan.

1) 8.8 Install... EDI... March 1st (Completed March 3rd)

2) Shackle reversal... EDC... March 17th

3) body wiith boatsides... EDC... March 20th

4) D44/D30 Hybrid... EDI... April 30th


So as you all know I have built myself a shaved 8.8 for the heep... Thread here it is ready... so next weekend it's going in.

I am also in the completion stages of the design and modification of the outers and knukles of the D30. They will be sporting D44 locking hubs as well as the rotors and calipers. Thread here

The shackle reversal I think will be tough, but I've done my research and I believe that with the crew I have this will be a very successful upgrade. With this modification I am moving the front axle forward 2-3".

I have planned 3 days for this Event, with 1-2 days Prep time.

Here is a link to the poll I created

Link to the rear frame repairs.

the boatside.... Hmmmmm.... I'm almost 100% certain that I will do the boatsiding.... I figure it will cause me less agrivation as I have to repair the tub in these locations anyways. On this I'm flying buy the seat of my pants... I've seen a few Jeeps with it done, don't think its a big issue.... I can do it. this one will take 5-6 days.... but will overlap the frame work.

total time 10 days..... for frame and sides...... gonna be a busy 10 days. I have a crew coming.... it should go well.

[Jak Flash]

So Now... that I've started my thread....

Here is a question I have regarding the front drive shaft..... Can I put two slip yolks in a drive shaft for extra length? What would be the longest Yolk I can buy out there? (new or used) The Yolk in the current driveshaft is 6" long... Long enough (already longer than the stock ones)?

Been thinking of the double yolk thing.... any reason why it cant be done?

[Ledhead_84]

Sounds like a crazy 10 days

Anymore thought on how your doing your boatsides? still planing on using body metal or going to use plate?

Let me know when you need the bead roller for your floor pans.

[Chrisbuilt]

Double slip yoke, not gonna work when the center slides down and falls off the upper part of the driveshaft. If you do get it to work it will probably fling around like a skipping rope with any small amount of slop in the slip.

If you get locking hubs on the 44/30 you can build a square front shaft with 10" or 15" of slip. Mine works great and have used it up to 80 km/h with tolerable vibes and only cost an hour or 2 and $20-30.

[Curt's_97]

Yup, what Chris said. or just get a piece of tube and lengthen it. It would be lighter then the square thus easier on the pinion bearing. How much slip do you need? I have a xj shaft i sliced and diced the tube on and have enough slip to still flex like a whore.

[Jak Flash]

I will need somewhere in the vecinity of 13-15" of slip curt... the difference is that with shackle reversal the axle slides forward when it drops out.

If i can find a way to limit the travel of the slip do you think it will work?

[Curt's_97]

Not too in tune with the world of leafs springs but i'm trying to metally articulate in my head how much of difference the axle would move whether shackles are front or rear. I guess with full compression i can see how axle would go opposite ways depending on front or rear shackle. 13-15" of slip, jebus.

Just editted and confused myself further. lol

This would be better left to a leaf spring guru.

Cheers

[Chrisbuilt]

You also have to worry about the front axle walking out from under the Jeep when it has good traction. Sometimes the shackle will invert and bend the front of the springs if there is a bunch of HP and traction. I've seen a few front shafts pull apart under that exact situation.

[J-roc]

Jak have you looked into making slider boxes instead?

[Jak Flash]

^ is that the same as what Chris was suggesting two square tubes on slipping inside the other?

if yes then it will be considered.... If no then.... I dunno ...

[Jak Flash]

Not too in tune with the world of leafs springs but i'm trying to metally articulate in my head how much of difference the axle would move whether shackles are front or rear. I guess with full compression i can see how axle would go opposite ways depending on front or rear shackle. 13-15" of slip, jebus.

Just editted and confused myself further. lol

This would be better left to a leaf spring guru.

Cheers

since the Leaf is affixed at the front Curt... when the axle drops out it will drop forward.... depending on how much drop out and as Chris has also pointed out axle walk (tire pulling the axle forward under load). It could move forward quite a bit, hence the need for a long slip in the DS. I could limit the travel using a limit strap on the side the drive shaft is on for better control.

hope that explains a little buddy....

[J-roc]

Jak, I meant a shackle slider box to control inverting your shackle and prevent bending your leaf springs

Since you have hubs, square driveshaft would probably be the best and cheapest bet

[Jak Flash]

Yes.... I do plan on setting the shackle angle properly as to not create a negative situation to prevent this from happenning. If I find that it happens.... I will add the blocks.

as for my springs.... I'm confident that I will have no issue with them bending as I run BDS Millitary wrapped springs. In the unlikely event that One does bend.... It will be replaced under warrantee.

[Jak Flash]

Another question for all the gurus out there...
Since I am cutting away the front frame and moving the axle forward 3" I will be moving the steering box.

I have the ability to put any mounting holes in that I please....

Tell me....

What steering box do I want? Can I use it for Hydro assist in future years?

Let me know your thoughts.... what have people put into thier Jeeps?

[Jak Flash]

to help explain the need for the extra long DS slip required with a shackle reversal.



can you tell I'm a designer?

[Jak Flash]

No input on the steering box? :confused:

I believe that I have decided to go with a Toyota Steering box. it will allow me to hydro assist in the future as well....

also.... 8.8 goes in tomorrow.

[littledevil]

I look forward to the photos of this....hope it goes well!!

[Jak Flash]

8.8 is done...

Looks fawking awesome.

Pics up tomorrow.

[caledoniajeeper]

8.8 is done...

Looks fawking awesome.

Pics up tomorrow.

can't wait to beat on them with you brother!

[Maxwell]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...vel+driveshaft this is a link to making an extra long slip yoke. I have an extra Yota box (IFS) if you need.