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    1977 cj 5 so the owenership says

    1977 cj 5 so the owenership say, lol.

    owener ship says its a 77 but they changed from drums in the front to disc in 76. i have drums.

    this is going to be my low budget trail rig. and not like tv where they say low budget and get things brand new. i mean low budget. some things are new only makes sense.

    what i bought. as a whole
    - soft top falling apart
    - doors not to bad
    - fiberglass tub, needs very little work
    - fiberglass windsheild frame
    - fiberglass fenders
    - hood and grill
    - dana 44 rear and 30 front 4:10gears
    - tremec 3 spd and dana 20
    - shitty seats going to garbage


    things i have bought so far, or already have

    - new bushings for leafs
    - used leafs with 4 inch lift
    - 4.0 high out put
    - 15x12 chrome wagon wheels
    - 33x12.5x15 goodyear mtr
    - free jk front bumper ( going to duplicate out of steel)
    - seats out of a 90 yj
    - 8500lbs super winch fornt
    - 3000lbs super winch rear
    - silver tremclad paint
    - bed liner for the frame
    - making poly bushings for body bushings. (not a fan of the hockey pucks it came with)

    my plans


    i have the jeep striped right now. i will be blasting the frame soon, and fixing what needs to be fix. wich will be not much as the frame is in great shape. I then will be epoxy coat the frame and then a coat of bed liner. I will be doing a soa lift. I will be putting in a auto tranny, with the 4.0L. 33" mtrs with some ugly wagon wheels. I have a sheet of 5'x8' aluminum checker plate to make a new dash and whatever i can think of. I will be building some flat/round fenders for the rear and something to match for the front. Im just trying to get it back together in time for roadkill bbq. I have no job right now for funding but lots of time. I would rather have little time and a job. but we all know how it works , lol. I guess we will seee how it goes.
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    Last edited by mudywaters; 02-27-2010 at 11:10 PM.
    85 grand wagoneer
    1990 xj from florida, lifted 6 inches
    with custom front and back bumpers
    and roof rack
    found stolen and burned
    77 cj 5 building ground up

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    looks like a fun build. gotta love those super low-budget builds. at least you've got a solid foundation.
    currently building a toyota. i'm sorry.

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    Hey Mudy looks like a good one to start with good luck with the build. I have a couple of suggestions for you. The epoxy on the frame is a great choice it holds up well and protects from rust and doesn't chip or scratch very easily you can beat it with a hammer and it won't chip. I have three CJ7s all with epoxy coated frames Ive got 8 years worth of driving and off road on one of the epoxy coated frames and it still looks great. I would not use the bedliner on the frame though as it won't add anything in terms of protection and if you ever have to do a repair due to frame damege etc it will just make things harder to repair.

    Also AMC introduced disc brakes on the CJ's in late 77 so it not unusual your has drums. You can easily upgrade to disc brake by getting some six bolt caliper brackets and bolting them on to your spindle, add the calipers and rotors from a 78 CJ and your done. In 79 they switched the disc brakes to a two bolt caliper with the mounting cast right into the knuckle, you could also upgrade to these but you would have to change out your knuckles.

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    measure up for the suto tranny, cause the cj5 are quite short so it may no work out like you lan, nice jeep though
    92 4.0L HO (sold dwnpmt on a new car for teh wife AFTER OLY HAVING ON THE ROAD FOR 3 WEEKs!!!!!!!!!!!! wow that felt good
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    I'd ask you to step away from the welder, but it might do the world some good if you clamp the ground electrode to your big toe, put the MIG handle to your temple and pull the trigger.

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    kennuck thanks.
    my freind cjsteve has a front axle with disc for me.

    kyle thanks
    13jeeps has a tranny for me that came in cjs in 76-79

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    oh and about the drums. i have a magazine that says the started to change over to disc in 76. thats why i thought the jeep was older than 77, well atleast parts of it

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    I'm not surprised as magazines aren't always 100% correct. Jeep made these changes as parts inventory ran out so it wasn't always a real clean cut off point for many changes. The other indicator is your boxed frame. 76 CJ frames were only boxed on the front half, the back half was still a C channel design. Frames were fully boxed from 77 onward.

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    The other indicator is your boxed frame. 76 CJ frames were only boxed on the front half, the back half was still a C channel design. Frames were fully boxed from 77 onward.


    theres my education for the day.
    thank you

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    well today was decent. found some soft sopts preping the frame for blasting this week. i guess i will see just how bad this fame could be

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    looking for opinions. i also need to build a spare tire carrier.

    option 1 welded to bumper
    option 2 bolted to bumper
    option 3 swing out

    one thing to remeber i dont really need a swing as i have a fiber tub and no tail gate.

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    well todaywas a good day as i finally got all the welding done on the frame, blasted and put 2 coats of epoxy

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    anybody know how to add pics?
    i just picked up a half steel cab and steel doors in greatshape for how old theyare

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    pick up a dana 300 todayfor 50$

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    changed plans a little. got a 5.2L and auto tranny out of a durango.
    one problem what you guys do with steering with a v8?
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    and the dana 300 bolts right up

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    Mudy, make sure you measure carefully and position that motor as far forward as possible. I'm not gonna say you can't put an auto in a CJ5 but its not easy. You will have to use a pusher fan mounted in front of the radiator so you can use all the space you have. I put an auto in a CJ2A so I know it can be done but I was running a V6 so it was easier for me to move it forward, after all that my rear drive shaft was still only 12" long.

    I put the engine in and all accessories and double checked for clearance before I burned in the mounts in the final location. Check firewall, radiator, oil pan, intake, exhaust, oil filter, steering, drive shaft, clearance. You may have to move the engine / tranny to the left of centerline for front driveshaft clearance, this may complicate steering routing but there are ways around that using an additional u joint in the steering shaft to get around the engine, I had to do this on the Willys as it had a saginaw steering conversion as well.


    As you can see its not easy but with enough thought and patience it can be done, and yes you will get frustrated at times. Your spring over will most likely be out of the question however with such a short drive shaft but only time will tell. I prefer to open up the wheel wells and use less lift, especially with V8 power as wheel hop will be very hard to control with a spring over.

    If it was easy anybody could do it!!!!

    And you need to post more pics man...

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    will get pics of what i got done tomorrow.
    and i forgot im not doing the spring over. i will get a decent lift with the springs i have. plus im making my own body mounts. i measured the rear shaft to be about 12-16 inches if i remeber right. motor moutns are allready welded in. i do have a hot rod idea for steering. just not shure yet maybe i will look for pics to see if any one has done it, or if it was just a one off.

    as soon as i get the rear end in and can move the jeep im gone throw the tub in place just to double check positon of motor

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    lol and patience, its only been a year since ive been able to do anything.
    wanted it done last year i miss the mud
    wich reminds me i should run out and tarp motor back up

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    funny how things change
    5.2 L magnum an auto tranny with d300
    who know the colour of paint lol
    no soa
    and i belive i bought a set of 5 aluminum wheels from kennuck last summer
    will post pic tomorrow

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    anyone know the stock height of body bushings?

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    That's looking pretty nice. I assume your final wheels will have a lot more offset?
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