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    Bender Die: What to get?

    Probably ordering a die in the next week or so and debating on what size to get. I will be building my own full hydro bender as I have a ram and a power pack.
    Do I go with:
    1 3/4" or 1 5/8"?

    Primarily I ill be building an Exo for the Cherokee, and I'll admit, my rig will be a PIG on weight!!! So that leads me to a 1 3/4".

    But next project is to build a tube chassis for one of the many honda motors I got laying around (LONG TERM project, more tinkering then building). That screams 1 5/8".

    Also we will be building a Susuki for my friend. Another Check for 1 5/8"

    But the steel places in town don't keep 1 5/8" in stock often so I have to buy a # of lengths at once. So another check for 1 3/4"



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    not to sure but u could checkout the show extreme 4x4 on line and see what sizes they used. I know they did a few shows on tube sizes and bending.

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    Ya, If I had a budget like their's I'd get both.

    For Main structural caging 1 3/4" is better, but with design and adding in between 1 5/8" is better.

    Where is the happy medium?

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    thinking that if you get the one that will pay for it's self the quickest is the way to go then buy the next one.

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    buy the 1 3/4 yerself and get yer buddy to but the 1 5/8 ?
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    Mudsir: I can do that, but with my schedule and build dreams, other people can do their own stuff.

    IGFJ: Thinking that, but he'll use whatever I have seeing as he has less then 600.00 into a 98 Sidekick with 33's, lifted 6" and has a set of solid axles waiting to go under.

    I'm leaning towards 1 3/4" as that what my current rig should use.

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    go 1 3/4" ..... just vary your wall thickness if you have the choices at said retailer
    Give me a few minutes I will talk you into a new project

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    I have both dies and rarely use the 1.75 die. I find that 1.625 tube is much cheaper to buy and dosent hurt so bad when you screw up a bend.

    I can get you a good deal on 1.625 material, just shoot me a PM for details.
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    You may be able to bend 1 5/8" with the 1 3/4" die. If it can, it'll kink a little more..... but you definitely cannot bend 1 3/4" with a 1 5/8" die.


    I'd go with 1 3/4"... That's what I have for mine and the next die I would probably buy would be 1 3/8" or 1 1/2" for some tube fenders.

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    Seems like a lot of people go 1.5 for exo'd unibodies but for your animal i would think 1.75 would be appropriate. Also works out well for when you want to buggy it out a little more in the future as well if you ever want to add to buddies TJ, YJ cages or do up stingers, rock rails, etc. Just my 2 cents. And all the tube fenders i've done have been 1.25. Oh ya, and obiously what ever you decide on make sure it's in the 240 degree flavour. And don't forget, bending is fun
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    90% of our 4x4/offroad customers choose 1.5" or 1.75", I stock both of these dies in the 240 Degree versions which is something I highly recommend.

    Most of our hot rod/drag car customers choose 1.625".

    1.75" will have the best resale value should you decide to sell your set-up in the future.

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    WHats the jeepkings discount for the 1.75" die set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4wheeler View Post
    WHats the jeepkings discount for the 1.75" die set?
    1.75"? Derek man, thought you zuki guys bend your sh!t with these.


    Sorry, had too. K, back on topic.

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    What is the added value of haveing a 240deg other the doing stingers and hoops. I've never had it were I needed more then the 90deg my pipe kinker can do.

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    Nice for stingers, rad hoops, shock hoops, skid plates, etc. or just getting creative elsewhere. Not necessary the majority of the time but for the extra $30-40 or whatever it is why not just in case.

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    I found the 240 die is more cumbersome. Ex: if you re making a hoop with several complicated bends and taking it in and out of the bender a lot, the smaller 120 die is easier to get in and out of the way. Cheaper as well!
    I d more look at the choice of radius.. 6" is good for the hoop and 4.5" is good for the rest of it...HELL , just buy all of them...

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    If you are interested, we have a set of dies from an old muffler pipe bender that we would be happy to sell. Several sizes there I think. If you are interested, I will check sizes....?
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    I recently bought a 1.75 240 die from Tim and I have no complaints. BUT check out this guy he aparently makes all his dies to sell maybe he will make what he doesnt list .

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Die-JD2-MODEL-3-...item27b4d974c8

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    Okay, bumping this thread for a few things...first of all...JKM, what did you decide to go with?



    Quote Originally Posted by TMR Customs View Post
    90% of our 4x4/offroad customers choose 1.5" or 1.75", I stock both of these dies in the 240 Degree versions which is something I highly recommend.
    Secondly...I am guessing the 240 degree dies just allow for more bend when needed?

    Also, Tim, you mention the off road crowd typically goes for 1.5" and 1.75" but what radius is recommended and why?



    Thinking about a bender, but not sure what to get/look at...will most likely get it through TMR when the time comes...don't see why I would get it from anybody else...
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    1.5" is very adequate for a cage, and would free up some space since its going to be an exo. i would find out what your nearest buddy has. if he has an 1.5 then get a 1.75. this way your both in good shape. also for the small amount of extra cash get the 240. you can always bend less but with a smaller one that one bend you need over it will be a pain. but i agree with 4wheeler, just call up Tim and get one of everything!
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