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    Manche on tons

    Comanche 90’s 4.0l
    Wheeled the snot out of it for a few years stock on 31” Baja Claws
    Motor was knocking so I parked it almost 2 years ago and got a new truck
    Collected and “seasoned” most parts over the years and figured it’s finally time to actually do something.

    Plans
    4.7l stroker
    Sm465
    t-case ????
    D60 front
    14b rear
    Brace / reinforce frame
    Skid plates
    Bumpers
    Keeping bed / tailgate
    I’ll figure out tires as I get there

    Any suggestions on the t-case? D300, stak, atlas? I get to play in everything from mud, to rocks so I want to be somewhere in the middle, but I need the low gears to pull out field cars and other things that get swallowed by the tractor ruts in the back 40.

    Initial weekend
    I started to tear apart the manche and get the motor out and then some toys showed up and progress was killed for the rest of the weekend. Its awesome to have toys and friends with toys but I was actually just starting to tear into this build…. So some Initial pictures and some teaser shots of cleaning up the yard with this weekends toy.

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    Just as I got the front clip off and the AC removed, and found my axles...

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    I hear this coming down the driveway

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    and now its Truck-A-Saurus time.
    ..... still a productive weekend, cleaned up 8 cars, a boat and an rv to the scrappers and the dump....

    Just need the pull the motors from the Comanche and the eagle, and get them home to start on he strokers, then I can start on welding the frame.
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    i'd throw a np 205 behind that ol chevy trans. it has a crappy low range, but its a big tough chunk of steel, not aluminum. or a 203/205 combo. that'd be sweet too.
    currently building a toyota. i'm sorry.

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    i say go for it ,just do it ,you know you want to lolo
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    Double it and keep it cheap. I gots 250 in my completely custom NP203/D300.

    What are your plans for suspension? Leafs? Links? Wheelbase?
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    I prefer to build it and not buy it, you see it, I probably made it.

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    leafs in rear, possibly up front as well, or maybe a junk yard long arm

    trying to keep wheel base close to stock, I like the little extra length

    doubler sounds good, 241 / 205 / 203 mated to a D300

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    Whatever you decide, lots of pics are in order. I miss my Manche.
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    I have a 241 you can have.

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    I'll take it!!!!
    dang, I had a friend in London picking up a horse earlier today...... Road Trip!!!

    now to find a D300
    Many pics to come, working 3 different jobs to keep this as medium budget as possible, I have no sled this year so I will have the whole winter

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    I'm starting to think crazy and am considering propane, any thoughts? anyone converted to propane?

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    Fuel -- Propane
    Pistons -- IC945 .040 over
    Crank -- 12cw
    Cam -- COMP 68-232-4
    Lifters -- COMP
    Rods -- 4.0L
    Oil Pump -- Hi vol melling
    Lifters – stock
    Push Rods -- ???
    Head Gasket -- ??? 0.043
    Timing Chain – Comp COC3127

    Cubic Inches: 281.33
    Liters: 4.61
    Static Compression Ratio: 10.89:1
    Dynamic Compression Ratio: 9.32:1
    Quench: .043
    Intake Valve Closing Angle: 55

    Bearings, freeze plugs, bolts….

    I’m looking at local suppliers for what gaskets are available and for what price

    Still need to search more or figure out what valves and push rods, I am sure some one has done all the math somewhere and I just need to seek it out.

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    I'm doing it on a SBC.

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    Long weekend

    Got whole driveline pulled from MJ

    And spent my whole Sunday pulling the motor from the Eagle….. Has any one every tried to pull a motor from an eagle?!!?! Anyone??!!?! The designer of that should be brought out back and attacked by rabid wolverines, taken back to life and then dragged off by angry horses then found and harassed by saucy bitter old somethings that are bitter and saucy…

    … not a fun time…
    I torched out the motor mounts, rolled the car on its side to unbolt everything I could see, then flipped it back over and had a hell of a time pulling the motor, with the tranny removed!!!

    For those who do not know;
    The axle almost floats in the unibody
    The transmission is mated to the engine, and to the axle in 2 different places
    The motor is also mounted to the axle AND the frame
    There is also a hidden mount right underneath the headers, that you cannot see from under or over the motor…
    This hidden mount from the motor to the top of the pumpkin is buried and you need to take apart most of the front axle to remove and unbolt it….

    So I got creative and used a precession calibrated fire wall adjustment tool (10lb sledge) to clear up some space and the trusty old gas axe to get it out….

    I wish I had pictures but I was so frustrated I forgot to

    Las part of rant
    The last … rectal orifice… that put the motor in / factory / ??? made sure you had to completely unbolt the engine mount in the MJ to remove it, the oil filter and the boss prevent the bolt from sliding out….

    I’ll take pictures tomorrow.

    So I have the original 4.0l in the back of my truck to be torn apart tomorrow and the 4.2 sitting on a hoist to be taken home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKMotorsports View Post
    I'm doing it on a SBC.
    Are you building the motor?
    I am building mine and the machine shop suggested I use chrome rings and not molly.
    heard anything similar?

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    No I'm not building the motor. I got it from a friend that said it was just rebuil had a mild cam, slight overbore and flat tops, but that's all I know. I have intentions of turbo as propane loves it.

    I had some good links but my computer crashed and I forgot to back up my favorites.

    Quick google lead to this and it states the oposite
    http://books.google.ca/books?id=Yn9F...page&q&f=false

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    I've been looking around and asking a lot of questions;

    consensus is for me to run full molly rings with a chrome oil ring

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    If your going through all that mschine work I would just look into doing a Junkyard Supercharger setup. But making this cheap and difficult is just what I do.

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    great...

    now I'm looking for a supercharger, more knowledge to absorb and understand

    supercharged stroker on propane.... In.

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    It never stops, Trust me!

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    I know.... I started to amass parts 2 years ago and just kept collecting and collecting and collecting..... and now i figure its time to build

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    Today in a little over 2 hours I managed to go from a full engine to this!

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    Only problem is i have no puller to remove the balancer... so any one in Durham Region have one I can borrow... now?

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