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    can't think of the guys name with the j-20, but he used to work for howes and reeves in fergus. he lives in elora, hence the license plates.
    if you want to hook up with him again, he is always at the a&w cruise night in guelph on woodlawn road at the cineplex on tuesday nights. he's been there pretty much every tuesday night this whole summer.

    nice 5 too, looks like a fun project. i've heard many great stories on the road from guys who used to putt around in the levi editions.
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    Don't want to hi jack ur thread but I wanted to show the wife a j20 and found the same one

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    Phew , when I first saw this I thought oh,oh, here is a Kennuck ripped me off post lol, I'm glad she is as as I stated and everthing you expected Jeff. Keep the pics coming, always good to see another CJ being brought back to life.
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    It's always fun tearing down a vehicle. Let me know when you need my help again Jeff and I'll be there.
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    That's awesome guys! Damn that's a pile of work done in short order. What's final goal Jeff? Resto, build, combo?



    And there's just too many motivational poster's i could make out of this. lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt's_97 View Post
    What's final goal Jeff? Resto, build, combo?

    Hard to say at this point...at first was thinking a combo mild build and make it look decently period correct for a 70s wheeler...then I thought about how much fun a little CJ5 would be if built for the rocks yet still maintaining some of that 70s wheeler feel...so...my idea...keeping in mind it is the o'lady's Jeep...JUGGY!!!

    It will likely get stretched, I mean I tell everybody they should stretch, so why not?!?!? It will be staying leaf spring (for now - mainly because the stock axles will be staying under it), 35s max (for now), keeping the 304/3 Speed/Dana 20 combo..going to swap the drum brakes out, the front FOR SURE, thinking about the rear as well...it will get a full cage...

    When it comes to the body, the one we have is in really rough shape, almost too rough to consider restoring...so, I am tossing around the idea of chopping it up a bit and giving it some tack welds to hold some shape while I play around...thinking boatsides and dovetailed...I figure the body is bad enough that if Sarah doesn't like it all chopped up like that, then we have to replace it at some point anyway...

    Aside from that, nothing is set in stone and it will all get worked out as it comes together...Sarah spoke to the insurance broker today in regards to some other matters, and just for shits and giggles she asked how much it would be to insure it, they are going to look into how much through our regular company, but they deal with some antique/classic insurance companies and we were told it would be around $400 - $500 for the year. She asked about any limitations on use (eg. must be going to a show or for repairs, etc.) and she was told there would be no limitations like that...only time will tell...


    Quote Originally Posted by Curt's_97 View Post
    And there's just too many motivational poster's i could make out of this. lmao
    I vote go for it...mainly because I am not in the picture...LMAO...
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    Most Classic car insurance companies will not insure modified Jeeps( at least the ones I have researched). It has to be stock resto and even then its dependant on the ins. company. And Classic car insurance does have limitations on KM's( usually less than 5000 per year) and leaving it alone(ie no grocery getter, no work, secure storage/ garage kept).

    if you find one that 1) will cover modded Jeeps and 2) does not have usage limitations(mainly secure storage)... let me know. I am trying to get my Vette cleaned up so I can get it appraised and then its going on Classic insurance by the end of the summer. The Vette will save me over $400 per year and if I can save some on the Jeep insurance too that would be awesome.

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    I had to sign a waiver that mine would not be off-roaded for classic car insurance...the classic car insurance is only for pleasure rides on the street, no work, errands, shopping as stated above^^.

    ---------- Post added at 11:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 AM ----------

    I think this covers modified vehicles http://www.lant-ins.ca/custom_wheel_...0cce9984b719f3

    but again, I don't think they'll cover off-roading and it must be in secure storage.

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    tony lant won't cover off road vehicles, i already talked to him about it when i bought my cj
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    WOOHOO!!!

    Major step forward happened today...we now have an ownership for this thing...so, it is legally back in the system (MTO had ZERO records of it) and the wife is the legal owner of record with an ownership with her name on it...AND ANOTHER CLASSIC CJ WILL ONE DAY BE BACK ON THE ROAD!!!


    It took us a while, mostly because we were not in a rush to really take care of it and we just sat on our ass over it...anyway...was a pretty simple process once we found the right person at the right office to handle the paperwork...


    - Was told by one office that we needed a UVIP - made no sense because it couldn't be found in the system, but they wanted to charge me for it somehow...
    - another office wanted to do all the registration in my name (because my name was on the bill of sale), then transfer it to my wife - would have doubled fees, but not taxes - made no sense to me...
    - yet another office told me if it was registered as UNFIT (meaning no safety) that we would need a full structural inspection done to get it plated - they are retarded...


    So, we found the right office and they knew what they were doing and all is good...

    What we ended up needing:

    - Signed bill of sale with both seller and buyers info (seeing as I had purchased it and was giving it to my wife, I rewrote the bill of sale as if I had sold it her - essentially I was)
    - Appraisal to show value - MTO does this for ANY vehicle 20 years and older (so even you kids with 1992 and older vehicles will need this) - cost to us $30 to garage/dealer that performed the appraisal, where you get it done may charge a different price and they should have the form, if not get the form from an MTO office
    - Affidavit of Ownership including all information about vehicle endorsed by a notary or commissioner of oaths , we had a commissioner in our town office do this for $10 (could probably get your city hall clerk to do this for a lot cheaper than a notary public or lawyer)

    Other costs

    $10 fee for transfer plus taxes on purchase price of the Jeep, would be another $20 if we wanted plates, but we didn't need them yet as the Jeep needs a full resto-mod done to it


    What was needed in the affidavit (which is essentially a letter your type or write up - don't sign until in front of commissioner of oaths, as they need to witness your signature)

    - Owner's name and address, as well as driver's licence number
    - A statement that your are the legal and rightful owner
    - Jurisdiction the vehicle was last registered (if know) - what province/state/etc. it was registered in
    - Explanation of how you obtained it, including any information about previous owners and how they came to own it
    - Explanation why supporting documents can't be provided (eg. previous owner did not have them and why)
    - Full description of vehicle (year/make/model/VIN/color/# of doors/engine size (# of cylinders)/weight (if you know it, we didn't and it wasn't an issue)/mileage/class (passenger/truck/etc.)

    What the Commissioner of Oaths needs to include on the affidavit:
    - Judicial district or province
    - full legal name
    - professional designation
    - expiry date of appointment for appointed persons
    - signature and stamp of the commissioner or appointed person
    - date affidavit was taken

    Most of that info will be included on a stamp they will put on your letter, they will write something like "witnessed by me on (date)" and sign it...

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    weird they never asked for appraisal for me.. i only drive weird old car lol

    are you gonna do some kind of tcase gears? or run the stock drivetrain for now???


    i switched my front to drums on my suzuki and it made a big difference.. That is def a worthwhile mod
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    still a toss up what will be done and how far it will go...the wife has given me 5 years to make this thing roll for her...first thoughts were keep it leafed and run the stock axles (30/44) but swap to disc front and rear, or go with waggy width 44s...now I am starting to think just go links and tons from the start...the V8 is staying (likely will get injected, no plans to change anything in terms of trans or tcase...by the time I get that far, who knows maybe do a 3.15 gear set in the D20 tcase...


    First thing to tackle will be the frame and planning for late winter/early spring to get into that...clean it all up, one small area really needs attention at the rear driver side...from there, will likely box the whole frame...then who knows...obviously suspension and axles will be the next step, but not even thinking of that until the frame is done...

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    Quote Originally Posted by igotafrigginjeep View Post
    still a toss up what will be done and how far it will go...the wife has given me 5 years to make this thing roll for her...first thoughts were keep it leafed and run the stock axles (30/44) but swap to disc front and rear, or go with waggy width 44s...now I am starting to think just go links and tons from the start...the V8 is staying (likely will get injected, no plans to change anything in terms of trans or tcase...by the time I get that far, who knows maybe do a 3.15 gear set in the D20 tcase...


    First thing to tackle will be the frame and planning for late winter/early spring to get into that...clean it all up, one small area really needs attention at the rear driver side...from there, will likely box the whole frame...then who knows...obviously suspension and axles will be the next step, but not even thinking of that until the frame is done...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverage View Post
    Kuss rolls first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverage View Post
    Kuss rolls first
    Yep...his 3 year head start has him right about here...





    oh, but I can't forget the first bender project he made 2 years ago...



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    CJ5 Tear Down

    Hey Jeff, I am tearing down my CJ5 this winter. You might want some of my stuff. You saw the jeep in the driveway when you were at my place. I am probably only keeping the body. Steve
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    heh i think 13 jeeps has a fiberglass tub in good shape too!! also if you have any ownership isues grimbsy is the best licenceing office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn rennie View Post
    heh i think 13 jeeps has a fiberglass tub in good shape too!! also if you have any ownership isues grimbsy is the best licenceing office.
    Well...the wife wheels like I do...by feel...so there will be no 'glass tub for us...


    Steve, I will get a hold of you early in the new year, see what is available and if anything can be used...thanks...
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