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    Exhaust exit for safety?

    I have my 97 Ranger and I'm doing a safety with it to bring it back into ontario. Now in Quebec as long as the exhaust exits past the cab its legal. However my mechanic here in ontario wants to replace from the muffler back because I had removed it before. He says it needs to exit all the way at the back or out the side of the body for it to be legal.

    Now he normally knows his stuff and i trust him but I'm wondering if we have any literature that says its legal to exit right after the cab. basically right now mine is solid and mint shape to the muffler and then has a small down turn on the "tail pipe" which is right on the muffler. All fully welded done right ofcourse but being a truck I never bothered making it super long and exit at the bumper. it just ends about 14" past my back window under the bed.

    Am I wrong and if I'm not do we have any literature that I can show him. its just an extra 200$ I dont want to spend if I dont have to right.

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    Sorry dude, your mechanic is correct.

    Highway Traffic Act
    Code de la route

    R.R.O. 1990, REGULATION 611

    SAFETY INSPECTIONS

    Consolidation Period: From July 1, 2011 to the e-Laws currency date.
    Last amendment: O. Reg. 80/11.

    SCHEDULE 1
    INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR VEHICLES OTHER THAN VEHICLES INSPECTED TO NSC STANDARD 11B AND MOTORCYCLES

    BODY WORK
    Removed irrelevant info...

    (10) The exhaust system including exhaust manifolds, shall be inspected and,

    (a) no exhaust pipe, muffler or tail pipe shall be missing, or insecurely mounted;

    (b) no leakage shall be present at any point in the exhaust system, except through drain holes provided by the manufacturer;

    (c) no component thereof shall be so located as to cause charring or other heat damage to any wiring, fuel line, brake line or combustible material of the vehicle;

    (d) no component thereof shall pass through the occupant compartment;

    (e) no component thereof shall be so located or unguarded that an individual may be burned thereby on entering or leaving the vehicle; and

    (f) no exhaust system shall be shortened or modified from original equipment so as to fail to direct the exhaust beyond the underbody of the occupant compartment or luggage compartment, and in no case shall the distance between the outlet and periphery of the underbody, past which it directs the exhaust, exceed 15 centimetres.
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    Not to mention, for Drive Clean Emissions here in Ontario it needs to Exit in the original factory location in order to be tested.

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    If the exhaust exits under the bed of the truck it does indeed pass the inspection, The bed is not considered a luggage compartment or passenger compartment, they are separated. And it does extend 14" past the passenger compartment.

    The way I read it does pass, but as with everything it's subject to point of opinion.

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    i had the same with my s10 and the etest guy had no problem testing it.... and infact it was only just past the cab, he was just conserned the sniffer hose would get caught in the tires.... but for the hastle of dealing with the mechanic i would just toss a tailpipe on and be done with it.... i did put one on mine and it was 30 bucks with a clamp and a hanger...
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    I wouldn't fail it on inspection if it was complete and exited out the side of the truck either. But it can't dump under the car like so many Camaro's I've seen. Drive clean is even more lax... as mentioned it just needs to be able to be probed without getting caught in the tires (that hose is $400, the probe head $300, and we can't fix either if they get knicked according to the contract with Drive Clean).

    I gotta disagree with CC on the luggage compartment of a pickup truck. A bed is just that, for lugging things. But nothing says the exhaust must come out the BACK.

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    I can't prove it, but I think CC is right.... a luggage compartment IMO would be referring to a trunk on a conventional vehicle. Everything I have read in the acts refers to the box of a pick up truck as a "cargo" area.

    I think it is safe as long as it exits behind the cab of the truck......
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    my buddies cj,the mechanic just wanted the side pipes past the door openings.....

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    Hm, cargo area? Might make sense also because heavy straight trucks often dump below their box section, behind the cab & fuel tanks. Like I said I wouldn't fail you on it either, so long as it was complete and I could still get to it safely for emissions testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noltz View Post
    I gotta disagree with CC on the luggage compartment of a pickup truck. A bed is just that, for lugging things. But nothing says the exhaust must come out the BACK.
    Although both interretations are correct, the best bet is to look at the reasoning of the law.

    A closed off luggage compartment in a unibody is differed than a luggage compartment of a truck. While both are use for the transportation of goods, only one shares an enclosed air space with the driver and passengers... and that's the real threat.
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    In the interest of this discussion, up until recently it was still legal to have passengers in the box of a pickup (so long as all the seatbelts in the vehicle were being used by other passengers).... so with that in mind, perhaps beyond the bed was the real intention? We all know these rules haven't been updated in a long time....

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    I believe it cant exit under the vehicle Must clear the body behind the cab

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    I believe it cant exit under the vehicle Must clear the body behind the cab. think of it like this If fumes could get in the trunk then it would also be in the passenger area only a rear seat back stopping them. On a pick up it has to exit behind the cab and exit the body sides or back

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    It's his interpretation - either throw an elbow and dump it out the side to pass, or find a mechanic who agrees with your interpretation of the rules. I am in the "if it's after the cab it's okay" camp and have done it on a few trucks. If that was stopping me from getting the truck through inspection, though, I'd just want it done.

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    Huh it doesnt make sence to me

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    >>>>> duh
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    Maybe this will help explain:


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    Look at the date on the thread you replied to

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