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    bungee cords

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    i just heard this ,not sure if it the truth ..this goes to traps on flatbeds ,we use to roll them up and place them on the front deck of the trail and strap a bungee cords on them to hold them down ,,so i have been told that this is illegal ,as unsafe load ,also that the bungee cords do not have a load rating on them ..so here is the second part ..when we have to trap a load we use bungee cords to tie the loose ends of the traps but if they have no load rating we can't use them this according to the MTO..which is a new law..now it talk to an ex-MTO officer and he had never heard about this either ..can you shed some light on this?
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    LOL thanks for the bump, I haven't forgotten you, just been crazy busy. This is another one of those ones that I know the answer to, but I need to contact one of my colleagues to quote the relevant legislation.

    I'll get back to you as soon as I can, sorry for the delay!
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    no prob knew you were working

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    One other thing, can you describe the vehicle/trailer combination and include the combined weight?

    Thanks!

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    could be any tractor trailer flatbed cobination ,A train, B train or Super B train..starting gross weight 88,000 lbs and up
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    three trailers are not allowed in ontario only western canada.
    does this help?

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    Yes, I just actually needed to know if you were talking about like a pick-up with a flat bed trailer type of set-up.

    Over 4500 kg is a slightly different standard than commercial vehicles under that amount.

    Thanks for the info, and I'll get back to you.

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    ok thanks

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    So I finally got in touch with one of my contacts at MTO. It is as I expected, that everything used to tie down a load on a commercial motor vehicle, MUST be rated. A tarp, is also (believe it or not) considered a "load".... Taken from the National Safety Code - Standard 10

    “cargo” (cargaison) means all articles or material carried by a vehicle, including those used in the
    operation of the vehicle

    Then go to Regulation 363/04 Pursuant to the Highway Traffic Act, and read basically the entire thing (don't worry, it's not that big - LOL) and look specifically under PART 3. It will explain everything you need to know. The link is below.

    http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/reg...s_040363_e.htm

    Hope this has answered your question!

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    its close ...i may have to find a picture of what i mean ..to be continued...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piratexpress1369a View Post
    its close ...i may have to find a picture of what i mean ..to be continued...
    Not sure what you mean by it's close..... are you talking about the weight? There are 2 categories, one for under 4500 kg (PART 2) and the one I showed you above for over 4500 kg (PART 3).

    With either of the above, you must use rated tiedowns for securing any load (including tarps/spare tires/etc).

    Let me know....

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    ok maybe this will make it clear ?
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ID:	81337this trailer front view which has straps holding down the 2 tarps ,we use too place bungee cords but not any more must be straps ,,i understand that safety..

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ID:	81336 this trailer with the tarp on and bungee cords holding down only the tarp ..the load underneath has either chains or straps...the way i have been told that you can no longer use the bungee cords like this in the second picture

    does this make more sense ?

    if this is the case then the trailer on the bottom you can no longer use it like it is shown
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    ^ Yes, I understand, and I guess I didn't explain it properly, sorry about that.

    You need rated straps (or even proper rope - that even has a minimum rating) even for holding the tarp down that is covering a load, according to my MTO contact.

    The issue is that bungee cords have NO rating at all.

    Hope this clears it up!
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    no you were right i just wanted to make sure we were on the same page ,to what was told to me by the other person ...thanks alot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piratexpress1369a View Post
    no you were right i just wanted to make sure we were on the same page ,to what was told to me by the other person ...thanks alot
    No problem at all!

    I find it hard to believe they use regular bungee cords for tarps anymore, like in that last picture? Then again, I'm not in the trucking industry! LOL

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    There are rated bungee cords available at most truck parts places along with the chains and straps. 10lbs for X amount on stretch etc.

    Here is a PDF that has a pertinent blurb about bungee cords.

    http://www.ccmta.ca/english/committees/cra/cargo/pdf/Information%20_Cargo_Securement_Changes_January_20 10_Dec_Update.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisbuilt View Post
    There are rated bungee cords available at most truck parts places along with the chains and straps. 10lbs for X amount on stretch etc.


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    As long as they're rated, and meet the weight required, these bungees you're talking about would be good to go I would think!

    Thanks for the info!

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