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    JJ's Needs Your Help $500 Reward

    Just Jeeps is offering a $500 cash reward leading to the identification and prosecution of the person/s responsible for the fraudulent purchase of a Rubicon Express 4.5" Long Arm Kit with Tri-link part #RE7514. The kit is designed to fit 03-06 Jeep Tj's. If anyone knows anything related directly or indirectly to this kit being sold or used please feel free to contact:

    Jerry@justjeeps.com
    416-661-5337 ext 226

    Also feel free to bump this thread I will update with any news regarding this matter.
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    Mail order scammers tick me off. I'll keep an eye out.
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    i would say keep an eye on kijiji, but odds are they already had a buyer before they scammed you and unfortunately the cops take the report and do absolutely nothing.
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    Thanks folks yup have Kijiji covered. It's kinda hard to hide a Jeep like that thank god for a fairly tight knit community

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    Any info on location of shippment, or identification used? Like false names and the such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBJeepThing View Post
    Just Jeeps is offering a $500 cash reward leading to the identification and prosecution of the person/s responsible for the fraudulent purchase of a Rubicon Express 4.5" Long Arm Kit with Tri-link part #RE7514. The kit is designed to fit 03-06 Jeep Tj's. If anyone knows anything related directly or indirectly to this kit being sold or used please feel free to contact:

    Jerry@justjeeps.com
    416-661-5337 ext 226

    Also feel free to bump this thread I will update with any news regarding this matter.
    Was it stolen from the shop? Or did you sell it online and ship before it was paid for? How do I identify this fraudulently purchased(?) kit?. I'm sure there is more than one of them out there.

    How DO you fraudulently purchase a lift kit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigOrngYJ View Post
    How DO you fraudulently purchase a lift kit?
    Thinking they probably won't be posting a "how to scam your local 4x4 shop" manual on the public forum

    Stolen credit card is my guess though.

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    We had a guy come into our store wanting to buy big ticket items with travelers checks. They looked legit but without getting a hold of the bank that issued them, we could not accept them (yes, dude came in after bank hours and the 1-800 # on back of checks was after hours) We jotted down all the info then we contacted the branch and 1-800 # the next day. To NO surprise, they were not good and wanted the dude's info and description. If we had of taken them, we would have been out a LOT of cash!!

    Drizit...if it was a stolen credit card transaction, wouldn't the card holder and business be covered for this?

    With wheelin' season coming to an end soon, this truck or kit may not show up till next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotwire View Post
    Any info on location of shippment, or identification used? Like false names and the such.
    Parts were originally to be shipped to residence in Woodbridge.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigOrngYJ View Post
    Was it stolen from the shop? Or did you sell it online and ship before it was paid for? How do I identify this fraudulently purchased(?) kit?. I'm sure there is more than one of them out there.

    How DO you fraudulently purchase a lift kit?
    Quote Originally Posted by Drizit View Post
    Thinking they probably won't be posting a "how to scam your local 4x4 shop" manual on the public forum

    Stolen credit card is my guess though.
    Correct not going to post publicly the details but I can tell you all procedures were followed correctly on both ends. If I posted the details you would be pretty scared that they were so brazin as to the method used. As a retailer even though you follow procedures 100% unfortunately disputes always go in the card holders favor or the credit card companies.

    The card was legit and verified accordingly including a pre-auth. Weeks later it was disputed. We have investigated the card holder and there is no doubt in our mind that their card had been compromised.

    As for identifying the kit it's pretty easy since under 100 of these are sold world wide yearly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hotwire View Post
    Any info on location of shippment, or identification used? Like false names and the such.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigOrngYJ View Post
    Was it stolen from the shop? Or did you sell it online and ship before it was paid for? How do I identify this fraudulently purchased(?) kit?. I'm sure there is more than one of them out there.

    How DO you fraudulently purchase a lift kit?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    We had a guy come into our store wanting to buy big ticket items with travelers checks. They looked legit but without getting a hold of the bank that issued them, we could not accept them (yes, dude came in after bank hours and the 1-800 # on back of checks was after hours) We jotted down all the info then we contacted the branch and 1-800 # the next day. To NO surprise, they were not good and wanted the dude's info and description. If we had of taken them, we would have been out a LOT of cash!!

    Drizit...if it was a stolen credit card transaction, wouldn't the card holder and business be covered for this?

    With wheelin' season coming to an end soon, this truck or kit may not show up till next season.
    Thanks for keeping an eye out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    Drizit...if it was a stolen credit card transaction, wouldn't the card holder and business be covered for this?

    The thing you have to understand is no matter what the CC company never takes the hit. If there is a dispute and they find in favour of the card holder the merchant looses out, even in cases where the card was physically present at the store and swapped through the machine. (I'm not sure if this applies to a chip card or not)

    They are kind of like insurance companies, they setup the rules so they always come out on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizit View Post
    The thing you have to understand is no matter what the CC company never takes the hit. If there is a dispute and they find in favour of the card holder the merchant looses out, even in cases where the card was physically present at the store and swapped through the machine. (I'm not sure if this applies to a chip card or not)

    They are kind of like insurance companies, they setup the rules so they always come out on top.
    Is this true?
    How can small ma and pa shops get ripped of by credit card scammers?
    Is there no fraud insurance, provided by the big, wealthy, TRILLION dollar credit card companies?
    They should suck it up.
    This seems implausible and very unfair.
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    No insurance at all, Chad.

    You receive a notification (called a Chargeback) from your merchant processor (the company that charges you about 3% for running someone's card) saying that there has been a dispute. Unless you swiped the card, got a signature, or a PIN punched in, you are TOTALLY SCREWED. Even with that stuff, the odds are against you.

    For online/telephone/mail orders, that means you have basically zero recourse. The card company (Visa/MC) will never deal with you direct, they go to the merchant processor and then they relay to you.

    And oh yeah, all this is usually done by FAX, so you can imagine how many docs go missing.

    Basically as a business owner you need to price in a certain amount to cover your annual loss to fraud.


    So to any of you out there that know about this specific situation or ANY case of fraud: if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Don't kid yourself.

    This bullshit costs all of us as consumers, not the banks. Ma and Pa shops have priced this in a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacks View Post
    No insurance at all, Chad.
    Yup, most of the time the retailer gets screwed.

    I sold a mountain bike (a nice one, about $6k) while working at a shop a few years ago to a guy that looked sketchy. Because it wasn't sitting right with me, I got a signature on the CC bill, and a photocopy of his drivers license (picture matched, signature matched, his PIN was OK). Lo and behold, two weeks later a chargeback appeared and we successfully fought the service provider because we correctly followed and arguably went above and beyond our due diligence procedures. A $6k loss for a small independent shop would have been devastating.

    Lots of unscrupulous people out there, and they certainly know how to work the system.

    I hope you guys find the thieves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hustler View Post
    Yup, most of the time the retailer gets screwed.

    I sold a mountain bike (a nice one, about $6k) while working at a shop a few years ago to a guy that looked sketchy. Because it wasn't sitting right with me, I got a signature on the CC bill, and a photocopy of his drivers license (picture matched, signature matched, his PIN was OK). Lo and behold, two weeks later a chargeback appeared and we successfully fought the service provider because we correctly followed and arguably went above and beyond our due diligence procedures. A $6k loss for a small independent shop would have been devastating.

    Lots of unscrupulous people out there, and they certainly know how to work the system.

    I hope you guys find the thieves.
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