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    motorized snow vehivle act

    I know this is a little off topic however I am having a difficult time finding an answer so any insight would be helpful.
    Will a "Careless" ticket under the Motorized Snow Vehicle Act. Go against my licence for insurance purposes?
    Thanks in advance for any info.

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    like on a snowmobile ??
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    Oops ya on a snowmobile,

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    Great question! To answer it simply, any charge brought against you under the Motorized Snow Vehicles Act does NOT incur points on your Driver's Licence. As far as your insurance company, you would have to discuss it with them to get the answer, or perhaps post up in the "Ask an insurance broker" forum.

    The same applies for the Off Road Vehicles Act, and the Canada Shipping Act.....

    Hope this helps!

    Cheers....
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    Thanks a lot big relief!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ON OFFroad View Post
    Great question! To answer it simply, any charge brought against you under the Motorized Snow Vehicles Act does NOT incur points on your Driver's Licence. As far as your insurance company, you would have to discuss it with them to get the answer, or perhaps post up in the "Ask an insurance broker" forum.

    The same applies for the Off Road Vehicles Act, and the Canada Shipping Act.....

    Hope this helps!

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    No boating infractions don't add points..... an impaired driving charge in a boat is a Criminal Code offence so it is completely different. While there are no points involved with that, it definitely will go against your driving record, including a loss of licence for a year for first offence!

    Sorry for the confusion.....

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by ON OFFroad View Post
    No boating infractions don't add points..... an impaired driving charge in a boat is a Criminal Code offence so it is completely different. While there are no points involved with that, it definitely will go against your driving record!

    Sorry for the confusion.....

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    Thank-you

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    Even though there is no points involved, do these still go onto your MVR and be recorded with the MTO? I know there is speeding tickets that may not incurr demrit points, however, they still show on a MVR.
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    Yes, these show up on your print out....

    Hope this helps!

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    Sorry so an offence under the Snow Vehicle Act will show on a print out?

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    Re: motorized snow vehivle act

    Quote Originally Posted by lucky_twin View Post
    Sorry so an offence under the Snow Vehicle Act will show on a print out?
    Yes

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    Hey I did a little more follow up and made a bunch of phone calls and finally recieved a straight answer from the "driver Control" portion of Sevice ontario. they stated that an infraction under the Snow Vehicle Act will not show on an Abstract.... the refered me to the website and here is the section that explaines what is on an Abstrct.


    "What you need to know
    This 3-year uncertified driver’s record is typically used for personal, insurance, and employment purposes and contains the following information:

    •driver identification (i.e. name, driver’s licence number, date of birth, gender, height, class, conditions, but not address)
    •licence status
    •expiry date
    •medical due date (controlled class only)
    •earliest available licence date
    Highway Traffic Act and Criminal Code (Canada) convictions, suspensions and reinstatements over the past 3 years, the conviction dates and any demerit points accumulated
    •active defaulted fine suspensions"

    So after reading this they sated that it will not show on an Abstract.

    I hope this is accurate and I'm reading it right with the assumption that because it clearly states only the Hwy Traffic Act and Criminial code that other infractions such as Snow and Atv acts will not be there.

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    Re: motorized snow vehivle act

    When I read that, it looks like it "includes" that information. It doesn't say that it specifically excludes MSVA or LLA etc. I notice on the website that it talks about different types of record searches as well. Maybe they show up on the other ones?

    I know that when I run a D/L, those others show up...

    I'm thinking perhaps the best way to get a definitive answer might be to order one for yourself...Just a thought!
    Last edited by ON OFFroad; 04-23-2013 at 07:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ON OFFroad View Post
    When I read that, it looks like it "includes" that information. It doesn't say that it specifically excludes MSVA or LLA etc. I notice on the website that it talks about different types of record searches as well. Maybe they show up on the other ones?

    I know that when I run a D/L, those others show up...

    I'm thinking perhaps the best way to get a definitive answer might be to order one for yourself...Just a thought!
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Having had the ummm pleasure of having to defend myself in court, I came upon something I had no idea was available to law enforcement.
    YOU have available not only every traffic offense I have ever committed from the day I got my license but every interaction I've every had with law enforcement either good OR bad.
    Is this not correct?
    Last edited by Jamie57; 04-23-2013 at 08:57 PM. Reason: I'm an idiot. need another?

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    Re: motorized snow vehivle act

    I am in fact a Police Officer....

    I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. You said you came across this info, but you're asking me if it exists?

    Police Services keep records of interactions every day. Report writing is unfortunately a big part of what we do! I say unfortunately because I prefer to spend my time out in the field, but it is part of the job...yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ON OFFroad View Post
    You said you came across this info, but you're asking me if it exists?

    Police Services keep records of interactions every day. Report writing is unfortunately a big part of what we do! I say unfortunately because I prefer to spend my time out in the field, but it is part of the job...yes.
    I know it exists. I saw it. I was just gobsmacked to see it sitting on the Crowns table. I'm just amazed that he went to the labour of bringing it with him into court.
    I hadn't gotten a ticket in 15 years and the offense was for an improperly filled out log book. A ticket issied by the MTO. Kind of makes you wonder if I or anyone could ever get a fair hearing when stuff you did as a young adult can be brought up years later and has no bearing on the context of the "new interaction"
    Reminds me of arguing with an ex-wife. She'll bring up stuff you said or did even before you started dating her to prove her point that you're still an a-hole! LOL

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    I have heard to that it is one set fine as well on a snow machine. The fine is set weather you are doing 10 over the limit or 50 over the limit is that true as well?

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    Re: motorized snow vehivle act

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie57 View Post
    I know it exists. I saw it. I was just gobsmacked to see it sitting on the Crowns table. I'm just amazed that he went to the labour of bringing it with him into court.
    I hadn't gotten a ticket in 15 years and the offense was for an improperly filled out log book. A ticket issied by the MTO. Kind of makes you wonder if I or anyone could ever get a fair hearing when stuff you did as a young adult can be brought up years later and has no bearing on the context of the "new interaction"
    Reminds me of arguing with an ex-wife. She'll bring up stuff you said or did even before you started dating her to prove her point that you're still an a-hole! LOL
    LOL good analogy!

    Quote Originally Posted by DWG View Post
    I have heard to that it is one set fine as well on a snow machine. The fine is set weather you are doing 10 over the limit or 50 over the limit is that true as well?
    If you're referring to a speeding charge under the MSVA, then yes, there is just one fine.

    Cheers!

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