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    sounds pretty sweet! Just googled it. Hmm... Maybe one day. Is it reaaaally worth doing, rather than upgrading the complete axle? I mean.. for me, theres no way I'm swapping to a different axle after how much time and money I've put into it.. but for someone who didn't.. would it be worth it?

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    hoooooookay here we go again!

    Today was a pretty good day. Got lots done. First things first! Made up the control arms. Pretty quick and painless... well, the lowers were anyway.



    Got the axle squared away before bothering with the UCA, and track bar. Just wanted to have a good starting point first.



    Got 'er sitting at ride height... This time I remembered to take those measurements. Makes things much easier.



    Isn't that sexy?!

    Upper mounted. Used a broom stick handle as an indicator as to where the bracket would land on the truss, and to what angle it should/would sit at...



    Customized the custom bracket, lol. DOES ANYONE HAVE A CURRIE ANTIROCK?! I'm damn tight for room. I put the bracket as close to the spring as I could... there's about 1/4" between the end of the bolt and the spring. Can I fit it?!
    ****measurement is from center of the cross member hole***



    First flex test!


    ahhhhh sheet. not even close.



    After adjusting the track bar, realizing i made it too long.. trimming it down, re tacking the tube adapter in (THATS why you tack first!) ... a couple times, I finally got it close enough to know I have enough adjustment available to fine tune later... soooooo it got the good enough award.


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    Got the brackets tacked on.. cycled the suspension without springs, then banged the springs in and lifted the axle just high enough that they were sitting where they would be. There was NO pressure on the springs.. everything was still tacked in place and I'm not quite that brave.

    Once that was done, Pulled the axle back out and started getting ready to fully weld everything.




    Weld porn!



    Naturally, It decided to start raining. So I rigged up one heinous shelter out of a tarp, a high lift jack, my roll cage, a step ladder and an ammo box. I bet my neighbours loved me

    At this point, I was ready to paint anyway.

    First off was Rustoleum cold galvanizing compound (found at home hardware, home depot, lowes).. this stuff is magic in a can.
    Second coat was some self etching primer.. on most of the axle/frame brackets anyway. I may have miscalculated how much I would need. But again, it got the good enough award.
    As for paint. Keep it simple, I decided. Rustoleum flat black paint. It's gunna get scraped and beat off of everything anyway... why put something fancy?

    Anyway.. here she is.




    Ignore the heinous steering stabilizer! It'll get replaced someday.

    That's all the pictures I've got for now! Control arms are drying.. final assembly is in the morning.

    Almost there!

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    good enough!
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    Re: My TMR customs TJ long arm upgrade! PIC HEAVY

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckinmud View Post
    DOES ANYONE HAVE A CURRIE ANTIROCK?! I'm damn tight for room. I put the bracket as close to the spring as I could... there's about 1/4" between the end of the bolt and the spring. Can I fit it?!
    ****measurement is from center of the cross member hole***
    Don't have an antirock but I do have a swayloc up front and for the sake of what you are looking at that's probably close enough. I had the same clearance issue you did so I had the drivers arm bent a few degrees out in a press. Scratched the paint a but it works great and clears with no issues. That's what counts in my books. As long as you don't pop for the fancy aluminium arms it's all good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizit View Post
    Don't have an antirock but I do have a swayloc up front and for the sake of what you are looking at that's probably close enough. I had the same clearance issue you did so I had the drivers arm bent a few degrees out in a press. Scratched the paint a but it works great and clears with no issues. That's what counts in my books. As long as you don't pop for the fancy aluminium arms it's all good
    Beautiful! That's what I like to hear. Thanks!

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    I'll try and remember to grab a pic of the end result for you Thursday. Won't be in the same place as the jeep until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizit View Post
    I'll try and remember to grab a pic of the end result for you Thursday. Won't be in the same place as the jeep until then.
    SWEET! If your pics convince me I can do the same, I'll order the antirock tomorrow/friday morning.

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    Donezo!

    Well, today the project was finally completed. I tossed a coat of paint on the control arms, then quickly realized that I had gotten weld spatter in the tube adapters. Argh. So a quick trip to TMR customs solved that problem. The guys chased the threads, and in no time I was back in my driveway putting this all together into its final resting place.

    I was way too excited. No rain was gunna stop me



    Again, the neighbours LOVED that... as well as the river of rust flowing down the driveway lol.

    everything went back in no problem. but.. An issue did arise....









    I may have made a slight miscalculation on my track bar spacing. Shiiiiiiiiiet.



    Expected remedy is to spin the bolt around and feed it through from the other side. A colossal PITA to take it all apart again, but eh.. live and learn right?

    Hopefully.... HOPEFULLY.. that will give me enough clearance. If not... I'm not sure wtf I'm going to have to come up with but I'm sure it'll be sorta like a "hold my beer and watch this" moment.

    I'll figure something out. Still have a bit of room to bring the axle backward.. though I didn't leave as much exposed thread as i thought on the JJ... aaaand I really don't want to shorten wheel base at all unless I have no other option. That was a dumbass move.. but theres no way that brackets coming off with the 6 feet of weld thats on 'er.

    Any suggestions? Let 'er fly!

    Will post updates on remedy and some flex pics ASAP.

    This has been a hell of a project to take on in the driveway. Prior to this, I had almost zero fabrication experience (on vehicles) and only about a years experience with welding, which was mostly arc. My knowledge of suspension geometry was pretty close to nil, but doing this has certainly sped up the learning curve.

    Next project... Currie Antirock, aaaaand I guess the damn gears. After that? Hopefully nothing. My wallet hurts.

    Thanks for the support!

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    Do you have enough adjustment in the track bar to drill the mounting holes another 3/4 higher up in the bracket? That with the bolt turn, might give enough and could be done with minimal dis-assembly.
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    I had to cut my drivers antirock bar to make it fit with that mount, just used the forward most hole.

    As to the track bar bolt, can you get a countersunk bolt the right length and then drill a countersink into the bracket to make it flush?

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    Looks good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tealj View Post
    I had to cut my drivers antirock bar to make it fit with that mount, just used the forward most hole.
    As to the track bar bolt, can you get a countersunk bolt the right length and then drill a countersink into the bracket to make it flush?

    Do you have any pics?! I'd like to see this.

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    Test drive

    Alrighty, So I pulled the axle back off, which took about 15 mins. I spun the bolt around, banged it back together and voila! Perfection. No extra modification necessary.



    Tons of room.

    So I went for a test drive. Pucker factor of 10.

    The drag link is in need of a drop pitman arm now. Holy, was it ever scary. Just from getting on or off the throttle, the steering wheel would go about 1/2 turn. It's manageable on straight runs.. but during a turn its just impossible. Way too sketchy.
    I had to do a swerve to dodge a honda who decided to use my lane as a turning lane, and just about rolled at 70 km/h. Or well it felt like it. The initial swerve was voluntary, the next 3 were not. as the body rocked back and forth like a boat, it pulled the steering.. so it kept amplifying its own fishtail across the road and back. My hyper ninja reflexes told me to brake and semi counter steer lightly and that stopped it real quick. Whew.

    Needless to say, anti rock and drop pitman arm will be here soon. now its just a matter of figuring out the drop of the drop arm. A 3-4" drop should be close enough. I like to be very precise with my measurements lol.

    Overall though when it's going straight its a phenomenal ride. I've never owned a stock TJ so I'm not sure if it "rides like stock" or better, but it feels great. Still no Cadillac... but it certainly isn't the same spine jarring experience it used to be.

    I'm open to answering any questions about the kit, materials used, time taken per step etc.. whatever.

    I'll update when the anti rock goes on I suppose. Though it seems like a pretty quick and painless installation (famous last words)

    I also have a bit of a video of the steering going bananas during the swerve and other driving.. maybe I'll ad that in here for a laugh.

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    Videos!

    First off.. a little test of the line lock.



    And the steering issues. Hands weren't on the wheel the entire time. Took it easy since I was filming but you`ll get the idea.


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    what happen to the second vid
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    Re: My TMR customs TJ long arm upgrade! PIC HEAVY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizit View Post
    As requested
    I could have bent mine too, but don't know that I had the clearance, what width axle are you running? Never mind I think I see it's a TJ Rubi 44, which gives you more room that my full size 44 outers would allow for.
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    It's a jk axle to about 65" wms-wms. 4.5" backspace rims.

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