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    1 tonning JK's

    Hey guys a lot of you know me or have wheeled with me in my white JK!

    Been in the game a while and build all the time but that is for another discussion this thread will be to share some insite for all us canadians... In the states its very common for guys to one ton their jks with junkyard axles!

    This is a conbined thread as both our jeeps are getting built so ill toss it all in one!

    Vehicles:

    2012 JKU Sahara 4" Evo coils, Custom arms (3link front/rear), Custom steering, 40-42" tires, 2007 HP60 Superduty, 2002 AAM 14bolt,

    2009 JKU Sahara 14" Coil overs, Custom arms (3link front/traingulated 4 link rear), Custom steering, 44" tires, 2004 HP60 Superduty, 2002 AAM 14bolt,

    Axles:

    2007 HP60 Sueprduty front, Currie unit bearing with 52 tooth abs tone ring and JK abs harness, Yukon 35spline manual hubs, 35 spline shafts inner and outter, yukon U-joints, 5.38s, grizzly locker, Artec truss with 3 link mount, Custom highsteer arms, 8x6.5 pattern, Ford brakes,

    2002 HP60 Superduty Front - Same parts roughly...

    2002 AAM 14 Bolt, 5.38s, air locker, disk brakes, custom made ABS tone rings pressed onto hubs using stock JK abs harness, Artec truss, 8x6.5 pattern, chevy brakes,



    These axles are pure beef and will handle everything we plan to throw at them when done! The superduty 60s are MASSIVE on the 2007 housing guys are running 2.5ton rockwell shafts and u joints they are so big just to give you perspective...

    Both the jeeps when complete will be turn key like factory no lights on the dash... ABS, Traction control, Cruise control everything will work as though the stock axles are under the jeep..

    Both jeeps will be getting a lot more work then just axles but I only plan to actually document the axles for guys on here who ever plan to go bigger someday!

    The best part about the build is the plan from what we calculated will be getting both tons under the each jeep for under $6000 a jeep. Now if you go look at a Dynatrac pro rock 60 thats $12,500 canadian for one axle, look at Currie rock jock its a little less and so on... so to do both and have it run as though nothing was changed for half the price of one brand name is an excellent goal to strive for!

    Stay tuned for pics and updates as we go, This will be a many month long build as we are very busy with everything else so I will do my best to stay on top with pics and info!

    Cheers
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    This is the 2007 super duty front hp60




    This is the 2004 hp60 ready for blast!


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    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Awesome! This is exactly the information (from a reputable source, no less) that I was looking for.
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    haha yeah I will try and keep stuff updated will be a few month process as we are really busy in the shop with builds so I will do my best!

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    Some Front end Info:

    99-04 Ford HP60 Axle Leaf Sprung F250,350
    Axle listed by: 248 or Std. (248mm = 9.75" Ring Gear)

    Tube Diamter - 3 1/8"
    Tube Thicknes - 3/8"
    Ring Gear - 9.75" Dia.
    Inner shafts - 35 spline
    Stub Shafts - 30 spline
    U-Joint - 1480 (SPL 55) Allows for 38* of turning Measures 4 3/16" Across cups
    WMS - 72"


    2005+ Superduty HP 60 Coil Sprung F250,350,450,550
    Axle Listed by : 256 - Which is Ring gear size in mm (256mm =10")

    Tube Diameter - 3.75"
    Tube Thickness - 1/2"
    Ring Gear - this seems to vary from one to another from what i have read they range from 9.75" to 10" people came out with a nick name saying the Super60 has a 10" ring gear BUT the "Super60" 10" ring gear WILL fit in the 99-04 housing for better contact area and strength so not to worry we will run 10" in both
    Inner shaft - 35 spline
    Stub Shaft - 35 Spline
    U-Joint - 1550 (SPL70) Measure 5" Across cups 43* turning (Although some axles did come with 1480 Ujoints so be careful)
    WMS - 74"

    Keep in mind the F450, and 550 trucks are 10 lug and 84" wide you can take all that off and run the 8 lug off smaller trucks no problem and you loose 10" of width!

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    Top Stub is a 2005+ 35 spline with actually 1.75" OD where the bearing rides which means you can run custom 40 splines withough changing bearing!!
    Middle 35 spline chromoly for 99-04
    Bottom is stock 30 spline 99-04 stub shaft

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    WB on the left is 2005+ uses larger splines with less count and larger bore
    WB on right is 99-04 smaller bore (needs machining for 35 spline) and uses smaller splines but more of them for the hub...

    These are not interchangeble betweeen the 99-04 and 05+ due to the fact that the entire knuckle on the 05+ is larger see below
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    1 tonning JK's

    Yes don't get stuck with a super duty 50 I have one here if you want a glorified dana44 haha

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    ya, i think i'll be following this along very closely
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    Sub'd! This looks like it's going to be awesome!
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    1 tonning JK's

    This axle has a ton of cast parts crazy heavy duty nothing liquid wrench can't handle though!

    Once the rest get cut off and ground clean the knuckles and crap will come off and we will sand blast it

    Also we decided on drive flanges over locking hubs personal preferences that we feel will benefit us and our needs



    Stay tuned for more!


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    Everythings looking awesome steve!

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    Thanks dude weve been busy haha

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    Got a few minutes tonight to cut some brackets and clean it up a bit




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    We picked up our rear axles finally, we wanted to be different after all and do something most people dont.. So we wnt with the AAM14 bolt 11.5" axles for the back!

    2002 and 2003 Chevy Silverado 2500HD rear 14 bolt with disk brakes these things are massive... Comparable to a Dana80 in terms of gear size so we shouldnt ever have a problem witht them.

    Most guys dont run these as there are not a lot of aftermarket choices for parts, but we found 5.38's and lockers and shafts aftermarket so were good to go the rest like ABS and mounts we will make no biggy!

    Details:

    AAM 14 Bolt

    Ring Gear - 11.5" Diam.
    Ring gear bolts - 12
    Axle spline - 30
    Full Float axle
    G80 axle code - Eaton factory locker/LSD (depends who you talk to and how they interprit the diff) at 100rpm difference of the back wheel they lock up but under extreme load situation they will unlock so some call it a LSD some call it a locker...

    The axles are used in a lot of Diesel tow rigs and hold up to 1000hp and 600+ft/lb of torque so I belive a 4000lb jeep putting out 290hp will never break these haha maybe when an LS goes under the hood I will have to worry but I will be proud if i do grenade it!

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    Here is a pic of a hp60 front ring gear left beside the 14 bolt ring gear right

    Here is a jk dana30 front inside the 14 bolt



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    what a difference ..go big or go home

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    Cool stuff.

    But the AAM 11.5 is just too big and heavy to be practical in Jeep build. The weight significant. Just the carrier with ring gear is around 100 LBS. The needless loss in ground clearance is noticeable too.

    All I see is downsides to running an axle that large when there is absolutely no tangible benefit. This increase in size and weight WILL hold you back. There will be a reduction in performance and capability.

    I would seriously re-think the 11.5. Unless you are planning huge HP and rubber larger than 44". There is a reason 11.5's and D80's are avoided on trail rigs.

    And it looked like this thread disappeared...or am I imagining things (that happens from time to time)?
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    I see your argument to running the 11.5 axle but I cant see a loss of 1.5" really being noticed for ground clearance over the other 1 ton stuff out there I see it all the time on forums much like yourself guys talking about shaving 14 bolts and stuff for an added 1" of clearance but to me that is not practical at all i couldnt care less if my diff sits an inch or two lower and hits on stuff and I also dont care if I get stuck its part of the fun! But again many will argue this like people argue 3 link over 4 link it all comes down to opinions and we know what they say about opinions

    as for the weight yeah this thing is damn heavy no doubt about it, I will have to look up the difference from the 10.5 to the 11.5 to see how much more it really weighs and yeah the thread was down needed some editing...

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