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    More pics

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    Control arms shortened with new bushings. Final arms Eye to eye is 41'', it was 43''

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    Fuel starvation SOLUTION.

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    All plumb in. I used 5/16'' brake line with single flare. Orientation as you see it. Two pick up tubes in the rear, I figure we DO INCLINED climbs majority of time.

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    4 blocks of foam.

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    Internal fuel Roll over valve. I'm also running back up external ball valve flavour.

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    Sparkplug insulator.

    Fuel line insulator at engine bay.....no pics

    Fuel pressure gauge.

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    I have few more things to finish so I can go for my 2ND SHAKE down this weekend LOL. Install arms and splash fuel into cell so I can work in the garage tonight after work.

    I need to install aluminum roof, forecast are calling for rain Friday........booooooo
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    Repair to the frame looks fantastic! It was nice to meet you at crawlfest. hope this shakedown goes smoothly.
    currently building a toyota. i'm sorry.

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    I enjoy meeting you as well, I'm sorry I forgotten your name. Thanks again for the can of fuel.

    Bernie

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    What fuel pump? Where is it mounted, specifically in relation to the pickup line in the tank? Running the stock fuel regulator in the rails I presume based on the picture? If it was boiling, was the fuel tank hot?

    Why the foam? I'd be worried about the foam breaking down and clogging the Walbro's myself. Holley's new hydramat would have been a pimp solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunker View Post
    Holley's new hydramat would have been a pimp solution.
    It looks like the perfect solution until you see the price. It's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunker View Post
    What fuel pump? Where is it mounted, specifically in relation to the pickup line in the tank? Running the stock fuel regulator in the rails I presume based on the picture? If it was boiling, was the fuel tank hot?

    Why the foam? I'd be worried about the foam breaking down and clogging the Walbro's myself. Holley's new hydramat would have been a pimp solution.

    Fuel pump looks like Airtex/E2000. It's mounted on the frame rail maybe 3feet from the cell. Yes stock fuel rails.

    I didn't check fuel cell for temp but noted.

    I put the foam in to battle fuel sloshing around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTD NUT View Post
    It looks like the perfect solution until you see the price. It's ridiculous.
    The smaller versions were a little more reasonable to me, the first large mat they released pricing for was retarded.

    EDIT: I'm still waiting to see how the testing with the different Ford socks works out as well on PBB - it looked like a potential cheap solution that gave the same results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIORITY 4 View Post
    Fuel pump looks like Airtex/E2000. It's mounted on the frame rail maybe 3feet from the cell. Yes stock fuel rails.

    I didn't check fuel cell for temp but noted.

    I put the foam in to battle fuel sloshing around.
    Wayne's baffles won't break down like the foam does, although they are a little pricy as well:

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    Is the pump below the cell? I presume the feed previously was coming out of the front/sump of the tank as well? What size is the feed line into the pump?

    If the fuel is getting hotter, it's going to boil much easier in the vacuum conditions it's seeing at the suction line, so having the pump as close as possible with low restriction in would be ideal. That said, I'm not sure if it was necessarily a boil situation vs no feed from sloshing/location of the old pickup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunker View Post
    The smaller versions were a little more reasonable to me, the first large mat they released pricing for was retarded.

    EDIT: I'm still waiting to see how the testing with the different Ford socks works out as well on PBB - it looked like a potential cheap solution that gave the same results.
    The original intent behind the hydramat is that it covers most or all of the bottom of the cell. Therefore, no foam or baffles are required to keep the pick up from sucking air at any time no matter what happens. It was supposed to be a simple and eloquent solution to a somewhat complex problem. While it is, using the hydramat in the manner it was intended makes it extremely costly. Using a hydra mat that is smaller than what is required to adequately cover the bottom of the cell is counter-intuitive to me.

    At that point, why not just stick with baffles and snowmobile pick ups?

    FWIW, I have used the Ford pump pick up sock for years with my own internal one-way pump sump. It works beautifully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTD NUT View Post
    The original intent behind the hydramat is that it covers most or all of the bottom of the cell. Therefore, no foam or baffles are required to keep the pick up from sucking air at any time no matter what happens. It was supposed to be a simple and eloquent solution to a somewhat complex problem. While it is, using the hydramat in the manner it was intended makes it extremely costly. Using a hydra mat that is smaller than what is required to adequately cover the bottom of the cell is counter-intuitive to me.

    At that point, why not just stick with baffles and snowmobile pick ups?

    FWIW, I have used the Ford pump pick up sock for years with my own internal one-way pump sump. It works beautifully.
    If I can use the Holley + design, or ideally something in a |-| configuration to hit all the corners without the cost of the entire cell being covered, I'd be willing to risk it. That would pretty much be the same as the Walbro pickups. My concern is more how much it really aerates (spl?) the fuel when it's really sloshing around in the cell.

    What type of pump are you using in your system? I'm guessing it's a lower pressure setup than the LS engines like as I *think* you're running a MPFI setup on a BBC, right? I'm going with the 255lpm pump from Walbro externally for now, but keep thinking I should have spent the coin on Goatbuilt's stock GM intank setup.

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    2nd shake down went well in ARDBEG this pass weekend. My Walbro pick up I put in worked like a champ. I had the buggy sideways, steep inclined and declined. I'm going to wrap my headers to keep engine bay lower, they sure give out a lot of heat.

    My arms and shoulders had a work out rowing gears on the old 435 tranny. I need to redesign shifter linkage and next year auto will be going in.


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    more of Adberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunker View Post
    What type of pump are you using in your system? I'm guessing it's a lower pressure setup than the LS engines like as I *think* you're running a MPFI setup on a BBC, right? I'm going with the 255lpm pump from Walbro externally for now, but keep thinking I should have spent the coin on Goatbuilt's stock GM intank setup.
    I missed this post earlier.

    I'm using a Walbro 392. It is the OEM manufacturer of most of the common domestic in tank / in line pumps. Like the e2000, etc. The 392 is the common/generic 255 LPH pump.

    And yes, it is feeding a MPFI 454. I have been using the one way swirl type pump sump with a 392 for 17 years (yikes) now.

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