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    1978 Ford Kingpin axle shaft seal removal NEED HELP

    I need to change my passenger axle shaft seal(leaking). I did do search and no hits. I'm hoping I don't have to pull my gears out to change the seal. I'm deep into disassemly right to the axle shaft removed.
    I want to go to CRAWL FEST this weekend.
    I think this belong in hard core. LOL
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    Axle year is 1987 i had a brain fart

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    Bernie, yes, on your front 60, you do need to pull the carrier to change the inner shaft seals.
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    dunno about an axle that old but every front axle I have ever worked on you have to pull the carrier to swap axle shaft seals in them so I assume that's the same but either way you can do it in a few hours after work and still make it to crawl fest
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    I would not bother doing this job unless you had both seals. You are ahead of the game to change both at the same time as it is a labour intensive job.

    If it's not a huge leak, I'd just leave it and wheel for the weekend. No need to rush the job.

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    i like to do the job right the first time and it only make sence to change both seals. so fack it i will put it all back together. i do have a million other things to finish. Small leak Cheyne enough to get the tire wall wet on even surface.

    Do I need a special tool to RnR these seals? Do the seals push in towards the housing?

    Should the ring gears fall out with a little persuation after removing the bearing caps? i know to keep all shims together and install on same side.

    I'm worried I might not have enough room to pull the gears out because i have double ended ram steering bracket arm is in the way.

    Sorry so many questions.

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    1978 Ford Kingpin axle shaft seal removal NEED HELP

    Seals pound into the diff area just use a long bar and hammer doesn't take much and the the opposite to put them back in I use a big socket usually for an even surface

    Gears shouldn't fall out if you have correct carrier bearing preload there's a few tricks to get them out without a case spreader but there should be snug in there for sure


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    Ok thanks just lift it this job making more sence now. I don't think i can use case spreader because the tube and the case are heavilly truss. Does it matter but i'm lincoln locked, gears harder to come out or doesn't matter?

    Would you share that trick please and thank you. I've taken the gears out on my dana 30 and put in a lock right. Nutting this big though.

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    1978 Ford Kingpin axle shaft seal removal NEED HELP

    It's hard to explain without showing haha every application varies too

    When on the trail and need to rebuild a diff I have take a wrench that fits the ring gear bolt and have it rest againt the case and take the drive shaft off and twist the pinion by hand and the wrench acts as a lever to pry it out just make sure you don't go the wrong way and undo the ring gear bolt lol

    Also have taken a pry bar and stuck it in where spider gears are and done the same thing keep twisting it back and forth to pop it out because I don't know anyone who carries a spreader to the trail haha

    But if the diff was never setup right to begin with your carrier might just fall out you never know

    Being welded won't change the assembly dissamble of a front diff

    A dana30 and a dana60 are identical basically inside just larger it's the same basic steps to remove and install the carrier

    Don't flip the carrier caps upside down they have to go back the same way

    Don't switch them from side to side

    Torque them correctly

    Fill it up with oil and have fun


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    Your awesome with your explanation, doesn't sounds that hard of job now.
    This job started as wheel bearing, race, seal remove and replace.

    After digging into this axle. I also now need to replace one rotor, passenger spindle looks like shit and pressed in bearing looks sad. I'm not sure if the drivers side going to play nice.

    So now I'm thinking of ripping it all apart and change worn out part. I have everything except the spindle/spindle bearing and 1 axle seal. Does the caliper bracket and spindle come apart.

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    1978 Ford Kingpin axle shaft seal removal NEED HELP

    That will be a ctd question haha I'm not up on the old school stuff all the one tons I work on are new style with unit bearings no spindles


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    much appreciated though.

    I dont think i'm changing my spindle, they are $507 at QUAD 4x4............................................Too much for me

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    PIC of the spindle

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    Any I've had apart where 2 pieces

    Spindle and mount

    Can kinda see where mine split here, yours look to be the opposite

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    i'm still running ford caliper, yours looks like chevys?
    What year is your axle?

    Do you think my spindle has some life left, maybe clean it lightly with fine emery cloth.

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    FYI when I had to pull my carrier I put a wrench on one of the rig gear bolts and then used a rubber caped pry bar to spin the ring gear. The wrench basically acted as a stop and let the pay bar pull forward rather then spinning the carrier. Came right out even though I'd put too much preload on it and couldn't spin it by hand.
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    You're spindle looks mint bernie but ya it and the caliper bracket come apart. Leave it tho, looks showroom. A light sand never hurt. Id be more curious of the shape of bearings and races. To do the seals take the 4 carrier bolts and cups out and remember what went where up/down left/right and what bolt went in each hole. A couple pry bars should pop out the guts. A piece of 1 3/4 tube in through the axle tubes and a hammer to pop out the old seals. To put in the new seals I always use a wack of extensions, big socket and a hammer. 2 people is of course a bonus for this and the pry bar job. 4 carrier bolts are 85 foot pound. Have a peak at your spindle bearings too. They like to go. I'm just doing a quick freshening myself. You can see my spindle bearings are toasted.

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    ^ You'd be a good candidate for the Delrin spindle bushings that replace the roller bearings. They will work a fair bit better for you if you aren't going to grease them.

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    Dana 60 Delton spindle bushing. Edit - my bad, that was supposed to be a google search not a reply. Lol. I just ordered a couple Timken SBK3 kits for $20 a pop that are getting dropped off in a couple hours by I'm gonna snoop for next time. Lol.
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    Longfield makes a Teflon version: https://www.trail-gear.com/TG/Longfi...694-2-KIT.aspx




    Branik makes 35 and 40 spline Delrin version...but their website is from like 1998 and sucks whale dong so there is nothing to link.

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