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    The Hoistwagon

    Right off the bat, this will be a slow build. I wish that wasn't the case but seeing as I am spending my winter/build time on course in Meaford, all I can do at the moment is buy/collect parts and think ahead in what little spare time I have. Once I finish up course in April I should be able to make some progress.

    The whole idea of a project kicked off in November when I decided to start tracking down a set of axles to put in my 99 xj, the plan was to stick with leaves in the back, do a three link front, run beadlocked 37s, do some frame reinforcments and start thinking about a cage.

    Here's the 99 before I got all the crazy ideas. (Looking tiny beside Josh's samurai)


    Fortunately I seemed to have started looking for axles at the right time, as I found a set of 79 snowfighters almost right away.
    I went and picked them up and have been able to get a start on cleaning them up while I was home over Christmas.


    While I was on the axle hunt and trying to plan out some of the other work, I was back and forth about going all out and taking the roof off. While I was debating this, a simpler solution came along, in the form of Stitch selling his chassis.


    So the plan now is to do the build off this chassis, and some changes are in the works from my original plan. 37s just aren't gonna cut it anymore, so 40s are the new plan. With 40s goin in, the rear 60 is out and I'll be going to a 14b. The chassis is already set up for 3 link front and 4 link rear, so I'm not changing anything there. Motor, tranny and electronics will come out of my 99 once the 89 is ready to go, and the rest of it will get parted out/scrapped.

    As I said, this will be a slow build, as I am completely tied up until the end of april, and after that I am not really sure where I'm gonna be living after that, so I'll have to roll with it. Just wanted to put this out there, and hopefully I can get on it asap. Any questions feel free to ask, although my internet access will be fairly limited over the next little while.

    Matt

    ps when you are trying to figure out how to move a bare chassis to a location with no way to unload it, ya gotta get creative
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    Just wanted to throw some more info here. A little more details that I forgot to put in the first post. Some things are definates, some are gonna depend on time/money/resources. The rear end is going to get pushed back a few inches to get a little bit more wheel base, and get the front of the rear tire out of the door frame. Moving the axle back is going to require moving the gas tank, so I'm weighing the options of raising the stock tank up farther than it already is into the storage box in the rear cargo area, or trying to fit a fuel cell in there. If the money is there, I'll be looking at coilovers or air, if not, I'll plan to move the spring perches and shocks back to accomodate the stretch. Same goes for the front, although no plans to move it forward any farther. Steering up front will be set up like the blueprint build, with a DOM draglink running to a passenger side highsteer arm and an aluminum tierod running on the factory steering arms with hydro assist. The suspension will be dom with johnnys at the axle end and rodends at the frame to match the existing brackets. T-case plans are up in the air right now, although I definately would like to get a little deeper lowrange than a stock 231, although, again, funds will dictate the options there.

    As stated before, my hands are tied in terms of starting this thing for a little while, but hopefully I can get going with it asap. Either way I still have the 99 so if the progress is slow I'll still be able to run it this summer.

    Also, a little explanation of the build name, it started with the original idea of building the 99, and was the direct response to everyone that says you can't/shouldn't build an xj
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    Just thinking out loud here...would it not be less work to cage your '99 and put the axles under it? Seems like a lot less work than transferring everything over to the '89 shell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMR Customs View Post
    Just thinking out loud here...would it not be less work to cage your '99 and put the axles under it? Seems like a lot less work than transferring everything over to the '89 shell.
    Hence the name Hatewagon? I like it. I never knew that Home Hardware handled chassis deliveries though - I'll keep that in mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMR Customs View Post
    Just thinking out loud here...would it not be less work to cage your '99 and put the axles under it? Seems like a lot less work than transferring everything over to the '89 shell.
    We'll have to do an intervention.

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    Haters! All of ya! And Coley, ya kinda gotta know someone lol, I wish it was a service I could offer lol

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    Excited to follow the build along buddy. I may have found that part you where asking me about. If you're still on the hunt let me know. Cheers
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    Thanks buddy, there may be some changes in the works, the haters have me rollin...

    PMed ya about the part search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattK View Post
    Haters! All of ya!
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    and remember when you're out on the trail and got a rig full of groceries... DON'T FEED THE HATERS!
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    Subscribed!!!! You can never get enough groceries out on the trail. Good to see more XJ's getting built up on this site.
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    So I'm no closer yet to getting going with this, but I have decided to go back to doing the build with the 99. Seems to me (and the haters) like a better idea to develop my fab skills by building new suspension and a cage on it, then doing the drivetrain swap. On top of that, there are some things that I want to do/change that just seem easier to do with a fresh canvas. Joints will now be all Johnnys up front as I am going to be building a fresh crossmember and I am also thinking I may have to push it forward a little bit to make room for the front tires, but time will tell. Kinda tossed up with what to do in the rear end. Simplest option I can see is flipped xj leaves which will net me the stretch am looking for. I'd love to link the back end but I'll just have to see how the bank account and time frame like that idea. Hopefully picking up a 14 bolt on Saturday when I get back from South Carolina if it's still available, keeping my fingers crossed...
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    So long story short, I hadn't done anything with the jeep other than a few little things to keep it going this summer. I am living in Petawawa with no access to long term use of a garage, and have almost no time to commit to the jeep, especially as it is at my cottage four hrs south. This made it a little tough to get going with things as one can imagine. With all that in mind, I decided that having the jeep built by a professional was the answer for me. I'm excited to say that the truck was dropped off at CT Motorsports today along with a pile of parts and a dream lol. Specs as of now are 79 Ford 60 with 5.13s and a detroit, rear Dodge FF60 with 35 splines, 5.13s and a spool, front three link with a bit of stretch, rear leaves with a bit of stretch and 37'' MTR/Ks on TMR beadlocks. Pics to follow!

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    Cheater!!!







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    Built not Bouugg.....wait a second haha

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    Cheating, or winning...lol

    All kidding aside, I would love to be able to take the project on myself, but I took an honest look at the situation and realized it wasn't realistic if I wanted to wheel in the next few years. I took a look at what a good friend and fellow JKer went through and the time it took with far more time and space available and this is where I ended up. I also knew that the jeep wasn't likely going to survive another year of trying to follow friends on 40's. The rockers and unibody especially took a serious shitkicking last year

    Oh and Ken, you can follow my big tired sedan anytime...

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