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    Smile my YJstein build

    Hi everybody,
    my name is Alex and I'm a Jeepaholic

    So here I was again looking for a Jeep. Some bad habits you just can't shake....
    It started like this:
    Tina(wife): I miss our old Jeep :rolleyes:
    Me: You don't say
    T: I like the Suburban, but would love to have a Jeepie so I can boot around town with it, we can take it Geocaching, the girls (Alicia Wylde,10 year old lawyer graduate, Victoria Rayne, 5 year old terrorist in training) would love the convertible and it would save a bundle on gas!!!
    Me:
    Well long story short, we purchased a stock 92 Renegade to try, booted around the property for a while, put a plow on it for the winter, and stripped it down to the frame to access the damage.
    Oh my!!! that was awesome!!!
    I realized that the Renegade fender kit was strategically designed to hold in dirt and salt in impossible to wash places, which pretty much rendered the existing tub unusable(well maybe for the right person). The frame had the usual scars and was salvagable and are many cool parts that I'd like to keep, so we made a big mount of parts and started looking for another Jeep with good suspension components and a decent tub.


    Then we found this: 1991 Renegade(ish) sitting on 35's with mucho work done to it already.
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    belonged to a local member of this Forum (sup Ken?) and although it was in a bit of a rough state, there were many parts like beefed up 4Wdisc Exploder axles with 4.10's , suspension and shackles, various other doodads that caught my attention.
    The Kicker: Traded it for my Suburban

    I know, not a good way to start the thread, but it's a start nonetheless.
    Stay tuned for more.........

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    Hows it going Alex? I see you found the site... welcome aboard... and don't worry haven't forgot... I'll get you the soft and other goodies soon

    Make sure you get her out on the trails every once and a while to stretch her legs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickz&stonez View Post
    Hows it going Alex? I see you found the site... welcome aboard... and don't worry haven't forgot... I'll get you the soft and other goodies soon

    Make sure you get her out on the trails every once and a while to stretch her legs
    hey mang, thanks for the site thing, it kicks ass. A lot of good info here.
    Timmies for the soft top tomorow?

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    Day One

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    So basicaly day one found me cleaning and cutting electrical spaghetti all over. Note to self: give Ken a couple of sessions of electrical 101

    Other than that, basicaly figured what's staying and whats going off to the block, more cleaning...

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    Day two

    Today is the day I take the dirt collectors off(read Renegade kit)
    Man, I hate doing that as I already had one apart just months ago....

    After commisioning Tina's help (her jeep afterall) for all two hours we basically ended up with a red, black and yellow zebra


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    Some good parts that were replaced were still intact, some others need some TLC, typical Jeep soap opera, when I grow up, I'm getting me a FG tub damn it!!!

    I'm just sick of repairing "professionally repaired" floors

    Stay tuned

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    Quote Originally Posted by four41 View Post
    hey mang, thanks for the site thing, it kicks ass. A lot of good info here.
    Timmies for the soft top tomorow?
    yep it's a great place...

    we can meet up in Newmarket tomorrow if ya want... but still won't have the soft frame until on or after the weekend... PM me and let me know, don't want to whore up our thread LOL

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    End of day two

    So I can't post more pictures per post, bear with me.

    Day two, tub is stripped, the WELDED TO THE FRAME bumber/winch combo is off (4hrs of grinding later), fenders off, ready to lift the tub off the frame. Had enough of this for a day, more tomorow.

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    sorry about the shitty cell pics, I'll see if I can find my camera for the next batch.

    Question to the collective:
    Has anyone attached the Renegade fenders without the Factory hangers?
    I just can't see me using those POS's again.
    Any input would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by four41 View Post
    So basicaly day one found me cleaning and cutting electrical spaghetti all over. Note to self: give Ken a couple of sessions of electrical 101
    Bwaaaa Haaaaaa Haaaaaa

    He's a better student than some others I know.
    You never truly know your limits until you exceed them....

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    ya I got no problem admitting that electric is not me thing LOL... but I can't take credit for most of that mess...
    I only added a little to it

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    Day 3 or so

    Today while I was making puppies at work I realized that I was late picking up this.......

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    yet another rustbucket. I think I'm turning into a Jeep whore or something....Jeepho?

    Anyway, after driving in traffic for 4 hours I went and met the boyz at the PIT (cool pit BTW Dave) exchanged some info and back in the batcave for the assesment of the "new" Jeep.
    It's a basic 87 YJ (no emissions)with a rebuild engine, 5spd, blah, with a CJ front clip. Overall good condition, with many good parts.
    It almost looks too good to start messing with.
    Oh well back to the YJstein build. Since I didn't do nothing today, I'll get back to it tomorow after work.
    Stay tuned
    BTW....anyone need any good parts? I seem to have enough to build three Jeeps in here

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    Quote Originally Posted by LugNutz View Post
    Bwaaaa Haaaaaa Haaaaaa

    He's a better student than some others I know.
    I hear you man, I usually draw the line at speaker wire powering winches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickz&stonez View Post
    ya I got no problem admitting that electric is not me thing LOL... but I can't take credit for most of that mess...
    I only added a little to it
    Good man,
    thanks again for meeting me at the pit dood,
    that axle cover looks awesome

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    no worries mang... drop by anytime... we meet the same time every week

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    Real day 3

    Today found me taking the tub off the frame and accessing the frame repairs.
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    The front end needed a bit of loving and the rear end was repaired already with plates, but decided to replace both sections anyway.

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    Decided to cut the front frame right at the top holes as it seemed that it was the safest bet at the time:confused:

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    I'm making both sections out of 2x4 3/16 wall tubing with reinforcements all over. I was thinking of extending the front section a bit to accomodate a hidden winch.
    Anybody ever done that? I'd like to know the pros and cons on an installation like that. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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    day 4.0

    This build is starting to take shape today.
    After cutting the front and rear frame sections, I started power washing the inside and outside of the frame, it always shocks me to see the amount of shit coming out of the interior of the frame, they do indeed rust from the inside out, oh well time to start mocking up the front frame work.
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    I left the front a little long so I can measure up for the "winch box"
    It'll fit between the steering box and the front bumper and with the relay box removed and relocated (thanks Ken for the idea) it'll be totally hidden.
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    Time to transfer the steering components and start the rear frame section.
    Cant wait to weld everything properly and rustproof the inside of the frame.

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    sweet shop man...

    and nice work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rando View Post
    sweet shop man...

    and nice work
    Thanks man, I'm a noob on Jeep steering geometry so I'm talking it one step at a time.

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    Day 5

    Well, there's definately a shitpile of stuff to consider when rebuilding frame sections that's for sure.

    After a lot of mocking up and test fitting and researching, I determined that I was going to keep an 8-10 degree caster angle, 20 or so on the shackles and since I'm changing the rear shaft into a universal one, I wasn't worried about the pinion orientation too much but ended up with about 12 degrees.
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    this picture shows the front end weded up and gusseted. I'm using 2x4x3/16" rec tube for the main frame and 3x4x1/4" angle iron for gussets fully welded to the frame
    I'm also thinking of running a 2 1/2x 1/4" flat bar on the top and bottom of the existing frame to reinforce it
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    this shot is the "winch box" it's recesed enough to be hidden, the only problem is the aproach angle compromise and getting the hook out of it when I'm stuck three feet in the mud
    I guess I can always have the hook up high for things like this......

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    Day 5 cont.

    On to the rear section
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    same type of construction as the front, but with a 3x4x1/4" angle iron substituting the stock welded bumper section.
    As a note, I made DAMN SURE to enSURE that the front and rear sections are free and clear for draining.
    I was thinking of changing the rear crossmember, but it's in decent shape, maybe a bit of re-engineering is all it'll take
    Next.....drivetrain
    Any comments appreciated

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