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    Hardcore Rig with leafs??

    Who has something built up that they wheel HARD and are still running leafs?

    Pros and cons?

    I have been bouncing around the idea of switching over to front and rear 4 links and back half the YJ.

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    DVS is the last hardcore hold out I think with leafs but he has front and rear traction bars to keep them alive with 42" tires.
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    And his rig just plain works!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisbuilt View Post
    DVS is the last hardcore hold out I think with leafs but he has front and rear traction bars to keep them alive with 42" tires.
    I talked with him about a month ago about this when I called him to price out a full hydro steering set up. He likes his leaf springs thats for sure and I have heard from others that his stuff works well.

    I have a traction bar on the rear now, but no front bar yet.
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    Check out the rig in my sig. Converted to leafs. We'll see how well they work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.C. View Post
    Check out the rig in my sig. Converted to leafs. We'll see how well they work.
    I have been watching that build up and thought it was cool that you went with leafs.

    There is lots you can do to your rig to make it better and if I just keep the leafs it knocks that off the list and you move on to something else.

    I guess you have to wait and see if they break and then figure out why they broke and if it can be made to stay together, if they stay together then it works good.

    I thought there might be guys out there that right away would just have horror stories of snapping leafs when slidding back down a rock face and hitting something.

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    Of course bending or snapping leafs is possible. It's also possible to snap a coil over on a log or unseat a coil. I guess its all preference. Leafs may not flex as nice but I like the stability between trails and ease of future swaps (axles). My front is perfect. I can litteraly drop in any chevy fullwidth axle without relocating perches or any other BS. and If I bend or brake a leaf I can have new made over a couple of days from the local spring shop. It was just the right choice for me.

    Not saying better or worse. Just different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.C. View Post
    It's also possible to snap a coil over on a log or unseat a coil. I guess its all preference. Leafs may not flex as nice but I like the stability between trails and ease of future swaps (axles). My front is perfect. I can litteraly drop in any chevy fullwidth axle without relocating perches or any other BS. and If I bend or brake a leaf I can have new made over a couple of days from the local spring shop. It was just the right choice for me.

    Not saying better or worse. Just different.
    I agree 100% and as DVS said to me he can carry one leaf with him and use it on any corner for a trail fix.

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    Anyone got any pics of DVS's front and rear bars??

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    ^DVS does, lol
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    I have pictures of my leafs and traction bar


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    Ouch....what axle was that?

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    D60.
    A truss between both tubes would have prevented that.

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    I have both tubes welded onto the center on each side and a truss going up and over the diff. and running a bar forward off that in the middle above the driveshaft to a cross member welded into the frame.

    Has not broke yet...but you always hear about it.

    Did you keep that set up and do the truss or did you change it out???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm racing View Post
    I thought there might be guys out there that right away would just have horror stories of snapping leafs when slidding back down a rock face and hitting something.
    I have got lots of those stories.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTD NUT View Post
    I have got lots of those stories.....
    x2.

    I just got used to swapping them out every year or month or trip.

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    I had Forrest racing pull the tubes and press them into a new centre section, then TIG welded the tubes. I said I would not run it again until I built a truss, but I have.

    The traction bar I have is not ideal but it is fine. The tube it is connected to did not spin but everything else did. On the pass side it stripped and stretched the U-bolts and bent the perch. The leaf itself was fine.

    Ultimately I will run a four link, but cost is the limiting factor. For now carrying a spare main leaf will have to do.

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    I've had leafs break on me and have not known it until i came home and did a bit of Post trail inspection. Maybe i was lucky the broken leaf was sitting against the frame, still working.
    I have replaced the packs a few times now, but it is a easy and cheap fix.
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    I'm still running leafs all around on this rig and will stay that way, works good and is predictable. BDS springs and have flipped shackels, torn pearches and anti-wrap bar off, spun tubes and broken many centering pins but still running the same springs (10 years). I carry a small peice of chain if a leaf breaks to weld on, have onboard welder.
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    Bring it back to life!

    seriously supprised this thread hasnt been thrown up yet, some awsome trucks in this thread. I will be running leafs when i build my 1ton tj or yj

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